What is the realm of the Spirit (Romans 8:9)?

Answered from the commentary of William Kelly, F. B. Hole, J. N. Darby and 3 others

The realm of the Spirit is the Christian’s new state before God, in contrast with being in the flesh: the Spirit of God dwells in the believer, and His presence and power characterize that life. It is not a question of how well a Christian is doing, for the flesh remains in the believer, but the believer is no longer in the flesh as his standing before God. In this realm, the Spirit is the power of life and liberty, forms the believer according to Christ, and turns the mind to the things of the Spirit, whose mind is life and peace. The authors differ on whether being “in the Spirit” refers chiefly to the Holy Spirit’s personal indwelling or to the new condition and life He forms; they agree that this condition depends on the Spirit’s indwelling.

Verses: Romans 8:9, Romans 8:10, Romans 8:11, Romans 8:1, Romans 8:2, Romans 8:3, Romans 8:4, Romans 8:5, Romans 8:6, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:8, Galatians 5:16, Galatians 5:17, Galatians 5:18, Galatians 5:19, Galatians 5:20, Galatians 5:21, Galatians 5:22, Galatians 5:23, Galatians 5:24, Galatians 5:25, 1 Corinthians 2:10, 1 Corinthians 2:11, 1 Corinthians 2:12, 1 Corinthians 2:13, 1 Corinthians 2:14, 1 Corinthians 2:15, 1 Corinthians 2:16, 1 Corinthians 3:16, 1 Corinthians 3:17, 1 Corinthians 6:19, 2 Corinthians 3:17, 2 Corinthians 3:18, Ephesians 2:18, Ephesians 2:19, Ephesians 2:20, Ephesians 2:21, Ephesians 2:22, Ephesians 3:16, Ephesians 3:17, Ephesians 3:18, Ephesians 3:19, Ephesians 4:3, Ephesians 4:4, Ephesians 4:5, Ephesians 4:6, Colossians 1:13, Colossians 1:14, Colossians 1:27, John 14:16, John 14:17, John 14:26, John 16:13, John 16:14, John 16:15, Acts 1:8, Acts 2:38, Acts 2:39, 1 Peter 2:9, 1 Peter 2:10

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W. T. P. WolstonLecture 9 "In Christ"

Ponder these words, "Ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you." I do not doubt that there is many a Christian who has learned distinctly that the Spirit of God dwells in him, and yet, if you were to ask that person, Are you in the Spirit? and is that your condition before God? he would have difficulty in saying Yes, because, in himself, he is conscious that he has sin, and faults, and these would almost lead him to say, I am not in the Spirit. Now mark, "in the Spirit" is opposed to being "in the flesh." When I speak of being "in Christ," I think of the place where Christ is, as the Man who is alive from the dead. If I be "in the Spirit," I think instinctively of my state as alive down here, inseparable from that place. "In the Spirit" is that which really expresses the true state of the Christian now. When I think of "in the Spirit," I bear in mind that I am viewed as being in a state, or standing, or existence, or condition before God, marked by the Spirit's indwelling, and characterised by Him, as on the ground of redemption, and it is the complement of the previous expression, "in Christ." If I look heavenwards, I am "in Christ"; if earthwards, I am "in the Spirit if so be the Spirit of God dwell in me."

I was saying last Lord's Day evening, that the great truth of the Acts of the Apostles was, that the Holy Ghost fell upon the believer. It was the privilege of all those who believed, and received the forgiveness of their sins through the Lord Jesus Christ, to receive the Holy Ghost, and there we found also that they were to know if they had received the Holy Ghost. Here again the apostle adds a somewhat similar statement. "Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his" (ver. 9). This statement some people are afraid of Why should they be? If you have not the Spirit of Christ, you are none of His. It is what is characteristic of the man who has Christ. If I am in Christ, as my place before God, the Spirit is in me as the power of it, and I am in the Spirit, and it is indeed the Spirit of Christ, He, in the power of whom Christ lived, acted, spoke, yea, offered Himself, and by whom also He was raised from the dead. His whole life was the expression of the Spirit. If any one has not the Spirit of Christ — has not the energy of spiritual life which was manifested in Him, and which was by the Holy Ghost, he is none of His, is not characteristically of Christ. But "if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." What a wonderful thing! The Christian now has his life before God "in Christ." Again, as being "in the Spirit," he has the Spirit as the power of life. What is characteristic of him now? He is in the Spirit, and the Spirit is in him, indwelling that nature in which he now lives before God.

J. N. DarbyChapter 8

Observe here, that the apostle is not speaking of gifts or manifestations of power, acting outside us upon others, but of the vital energy of the Spirit, as it was manifested in the resurrection of Jesus and even in His life in holiness. Our old man is reckoned dead; we live unto God by the Spirit. Accordingly this presence of the Spirit — all real as it is — is spoken of in a manner which has the force rather of character than of distinct and personal presence, although that character could not exist unless He were personally there. "Ye are in Spirit, if so be that Spirit of God dwell in you." The emphasis is on the word God, and in the Greek there is no article before Spirit. Nevertheless it plainly refers to the Spirit personally, for it is said "dwell in you," so that He is distinct from the person He dwells in.

F. B. HoleRomans

But not only is the believer born of God, he is also indwelt by the Spirit of God, who seals him as Christ's. This great reality entirely alters his state. Now he is no longer in the flesh but in the Spirit; that is, his state is characterized by the presence and power of the Spirit of God, who is also called in verse 9 the Spirit of Christ. There is but one and the self-same Spirit yet the change in the descriptive title is significant. Christ is He from whom we derive our origin spiritually, the One to whom we belong. If indeed we are His, we are possessed of His Spirit, and consequently should be Christ-like in our spirits, so really so that all may see that Christ is in us.

William KellyIn the Spirit and the Spirit in you

That of which I have spoken is what is meant by being "in the Spirit;" and this depends on, and is proved by, the fact that the Spirit of God dwells in us. It is not the Spirit acting on the soul to produce faith, but dwelling in the believer. "Ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now, if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." This is the characteristic of the Christian. Without His Spirit, one is not stamped with His essential character. The Holy Ghost, not mere flesh, distinguished Christ from His conception, as He was sealed by Him in due time, and acted always and only in the Spirit. So the Christian, as he lives in the Spirit, is now called to walk in the Spirit. It is no question of not being lost — this is not the force of the expression — but of being distinctively Christ's here below. "And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." When a man is converted, but troubled under law, he has no sense of such a place, and no power to count the body dead. The Spirit is a convincer of sin, not strength to glorify God in peace while he is thus. But when he gives all up to God's sentence on the flesh, finding his all in Christ, the Spirit does strengthen him inwardly. Thus he is not only freed, but can use his liberty in practical power also.

William KellyRomans 8 - 16

To be in flesh then is hopeless ruin, its mind being at variance with God, and in utter insubjection to His law; and this is the sad condition of all the sons of fallen Adam. It is not however the standing of the Christian. As in the beginning of our chapter he is said to be in Christ and consequently outside every possible condemnation, so here it is said, "but ye are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed God's Spirit dwell in you."

F. B. HoleStanding, State, and Service

In keeping with this, we find the further statement in Romans 8 that while "they that are in the flesh cannot please God," we are not "in the flesh, but in the Spirit," if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in us (Rom. 8 and 9). He indwells us that He may control us, giving us the capacity to walk in newness of life and serve in newness of spirit, producing thus within us a state that corresponds to our standing without. If "in Christ Jesus" expresses our standing, "in the Spirit " expresses our state.

William KellyRomans 8 - 16

The apostle proceeds to contrast more at length those who walk according to flesh with those who are in Christ. He shows that in both cases there is a nature with its own objects. It is not a question here of some faithful and others failing; "for those who are according to flesh mind the things of the flesh; but those according to Spirit, the things of the Spirit." Each class has its own sphere, which engages its mind and feelings. Manner or measure is not before us; but flesh and Spirit, or rather those characterized by them, go out after their respective natures and love or hate accordingly. Duty has its place, and is invariably claimed and regulated by the relationship in which people stand; but here another topic is under discussion, not so much relative position and its responsibilities as the new principle and power of the Christian compared with all other men. He is characterized, not by flesh (i.e., human nature fallen, estranged from God, and as we shall see, enmity against Him) but the Spirit, and this identifying itself with the very being and state of the Christian, just as we see in the case of demoniacs that they were bound up with their evil possession, so that the man and the unclean spirit could only be severed by God's power. Further on we have the Holy Spirit treated as an indwelling person, who acts in and with the believer; but here it is a characteristic state predicated of the Christian, contrasted with that of all other men out of which he is brought by faith in Christ. For all were alike in the same state, "in flesh," as born of Adam; but those according to the Spirit mind the things of the Spirit, things which eye has not seen nor ear heard, neither has it entered the heart of man to consider, things which God has prepared for those that love Him.

J. N. DarbyRomans

Thus there are two natures, with their respective objects, and with the new one the power of the Spirit of God, instead of one, the old one, and a law which fruitlessly forbade its desires as well as its acts. They that are after the flesh are governed by its principles: mind, will, have their object in the things which that nature craves after. They that follow the leadings of the Spirit are under His power in the things the Spirit brings to us, and sets the mind upon. Now the mind of the flesh is death; the mind of the Spirit is life and peace. That is, they are characterised respectively by these things as immediately and necessarily flowing from them, or accompanying them. For the mind of the flesh is enmity against God, resists His authority, rejects His will, rises up against Him and His authority, does not like it should exist, and consequently hates Him. It is not hence subject to the law, nor can be. Its lusts will not have what it claims, nor its self-will bow to the claim itself. God comes in by law, asserts authority, and forbids lust; but the flesh knows no obedience, loves its will and its lust, and hates God. Self-will cannot like subjection because it is self-will, nor lust what forbids lust. But God must come in thus with law to flesh. What is essential to flesh, it is essential to God to contradict, and it is enmity against Him. They that are in the flesh cannot then please Him. Those whose life is in the first Adam cannot please God. There the flesh leads and governs. Their place of standing is in Adam life. But this is not so if the Spirit of God dwell in us. This characterises, leads, forms the life of him in whom it dwells. God's Spirit, in living power, forms and characterises the state of the soul.

167 This, then, characterises the Christian, and distinguishes him: the Spirit of God dwells in him. Such an one is not in the flesh (that is not his standing), but in the Spirit. This is clearly and in terms the contrary of the state, "when we were in the flesh"; that is, of Romans 7 experience. Then the motions of sin, which were by the law wrought in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. And, note, it is not here being born again. It is the Spirit of God dwelling in us. True, if we are born again, there are new desires, the evil of the flesh is felt. But this is not liberty and power. But where the Spirit of God is, there is liberty, with God and from sin. It is the fruit of redemption by Christ - of the ministry of righteousness and the Spirit. Christ has redeemed, justified, and cleansed us. The blood of sprinkling having made us perfectly clean in God's sight, the Holy Ghost comes to dwell in us, the seal of the value of that blood, and consequently, so coming to dwell in us, gives us the consciousness that we are in a new place before God - not in the flesh, not in our natural Adam state, but in the condition in which the Spirit sets us in God's presence. This position belongs only to those who have the Spirit. It is the Spirit of Christ. If any man have not this, he has not the proper Christian place, is not of Christ, does not belong to Him according to the power of redemption, which brings us before God according to its own efficacy, of which the Spirit's presence and indwelling is the characteristic seal and living power - that by which those who have entered into this place are distinguished.

William KellyRomans 8 - 16

Let us bear in mind that it is more than being born of the Spirit, which in fact embraces all saints, and is not more true of the Christian than of the Old Testament or of the millennial saint. But to be "in Spirit" goes farther, and is proved by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit after Jesus died, rose, and went on high. "But ye are not in flesh but in Spirit, if at all events God's Spirit dwell in you." Christ risen is a life-giving Spirit, as we see in John 20; exalted, He sends down the Holy Spirit as power. (Acts 2.) If one really believes in Christ — i.e., the gospel, he receives the Spirit and so can be said to be "in Spirit." This is the sole recognized condition, though there may be a state short of it for a season. The case described or personated by the apostle in the central and latter part of Romans 7 is that of one born of the Spirit, but not yet "in Spirit," which is the proper christian state.

J. N. DarbyOutline of the Epistle to the Romans

Verse 9. "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit." Now we get the liberty, for you are not set in the flesh, but in the Spirit. This is the new nature having its source in the Holy Ghost, and the Holy Ghost working in it. The man is not in the flesh, is not in that place, and standing, and nature before God (he does not say that flesh is not in the man), but in the Spirit; that is, all the Spirit delights in and descries, characterise the man before God, according to the nature and place he has in Christ, though there may be much failure in carrying it out. "If so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you." It is not merely God working for us, but in us. We are born of the Spirit, thus we get the new nature, but then, besides the new nature we want power and liberty, and therefore, consequent on redemption and our cleansing by blood the Holy Ghost, who is God, dwells there to work in the new nature, and this gives living power. For if I have the new nature only, this gives good desires, but I do not accomplish them, as in chapter 7; but here it is "if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you." It is not merely that we have new thoughts and desires, but He, who is really God, dwells in us to give us power to accomplish them.

Verses

  • Romans 8:1–111[There is] then now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus. 2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and of death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God, having sent his own Son, in likeness of flesh of sin, and for sin, has condemned sin in the flesh, 4in order that the righteous requirement of the law should be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to flesh but according to Spirit. 5For they that are according to flesh mind the things of the flesh; and they that are according to Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6For the mind of the flesh [is] death; but the mind of the Spirit life and peace. 7Because the mind of the flesh is enmity against God for it is not subject to the law of God; for neither indeed can it be 8and they that are in flesh cannot please God. 9But ye are not in flesh but in Spirit, if indeed God's Spirit dwell in you; but if any one has not [the] Spirit of Christ he is not of him 10but if Christ be in you, the body is dead on account of sin, but the Spirit life on account of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of him that has raised up Jesus from among [the] dead dwell in you, he that has raised up Christ from among [the] dead shall quicken your mortal bodies also on account of his Spirit which dwells in you.