What are the dangers of having an "us vs. them" mentality as a Christian?

Answered from the commentary of William Kelly, J. N. Darby, Hamilton Smith and 10 others

An “us vs. them” mentality makes a company’s importance, and our own place in it, more important than Christ; it breeds party spirit, jealousy, and a narrowness that can forbid or disparage those serving in His name. It can also make us proud and self-satisfied, treating those outside our company as inferior and forgetting our own failures. That spirit hinders Christian fellowship and unity, and can damage the testimony believers give to the world. When we are quick to judge others, we overlook the evil in ourselves, become unfit to help them, and risk hypocrisy and harshness returned to us. The way is to keep Christ before us, judge ourselves, and show humility and love toward other believers, while gladly owning service done in His name.

Verses: Galatians 3:28, John 17:20, John 17:21, John 17:22, John 17:23, Mark 9:38, Mark 9:39, Mark 9:40, Luke 9:49, Luke 9:50, Matthew 5:43, Matthew 5:44, Matthew 5:45, Matthew 5:46, Matthew 5:47, Matthew 5:48, Luke 10:25, Luke 10:26, Luke 10:27, Luke 10:28, Luke 10:29, Luke 10:30, Luke 10:31, Luke 10:32, Luke 10:33, Luke 10:34, Luke 10:35, Luke 10:36, Luke 10:37, James 2:1, James 2:2, James 2:3, James 2:4, James 2:5, James 2:6, James 2:7, James 2:8, James 2:9, 1 Corinthians 1:10, 1 Corinthians 1:11, 1 Corinthians 1:12, 1 Corinthians 1:13, 1 Corinthians 12:12, 1 Corinthians 12:13, 1 Corinthians 12:14, 1 Corinthians 12:15, 1 Corinthians 12:16, 1 Corinthians 12:17, 1 Corinthians 12:18, 1 Corinthians 12:19, 1 Corinthians 12:20, 1 Corinthians 12:21, 1 Corinthians 12:22, 1 Corinthians 12:23, 1 Corinthians 12:24, 1 Corinthians 12:25, 1 Corinthians 12:26, Ephesians 2:11, Ephesians 2:12, Ephesians 2:13, Ephesians 2:14, Ephesians 2:15, Ephesians 2:16, Ephesians 2:17, Ephesians 2:18, Ephesians 2:19, Ephesians 2:20, Ephesians 2:21, Ephesians 2:22, Romans 12:16, Romans 12:17, Romans 12:18, Romans 12:19, Romans 12:20, Romans 12:21, 1 John 4:20, 1 John 4:21, Galatians 5:19, Galatians 5:20, Galatians 5:21, Galatians 5:22, Galatians 5:23, James 3:14, James 3:15, James 3:16, James 3:17, James 3:18, Matthew 7:1, Matthew 7:2, Matthew 7:3, Matthew 7:4, Matthew 7:5, Matthew 23:8, Matthew 23:9, Matthew 23:10, Matthew 23:11, Matthew 23:12

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What the commentators say

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J. N. DarbyMark's Gospel

Then we find a reproof for a thing which in itself was love, though rough and coarse, but which dresses itself in very deceitful forms, and seems to consider Christ's glory; for love in itself is not upright: it is quite disposed to maintain the glory of Christ's name, if it can attach itself to this glory. "We saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us, and we forbade him because he followeth not us." See here the word "us" betrays the most subtle love of self: subtle, it is true, but none the less dangerous. But the Lord's answer shews how absolute is His rejection: "He who is not against us is on our part," because the whole world in its natural state was against Christ, and is still against Him; and no one could perform miracles in His name and at the same time speak evil or lightly of Him. The name of Christ is everything. Let us avoid this wretched "us," and hold fast to Christ.

Hamilton SmithThe Glories of the Mount

The second form of selfishness is party selfishness (vv. 49, 50). We read that John answered and said, "Master, we saw one casting out devils in Thy Name; and we forbad him, because he follows not with us." Here John is apparently not thinking of himself personally, but of the company, the "us." This is a more subtle form of selfishness than the last, because it has the appearance of ignoring self for the good of the company you are with. In reality it generally means the desire to exalt the company in order to make something of self. This is indeed party-selfishness. John and those with him forbad the man to cast out demons, not because it was a wrong thing to do, but because he did not follow with them. What the man was doing might indeed have been for the glory of Christ and the blessing of man, but it was not done in connection with "us," and therefore added nothing to "us," and so in the eyes of John must be condemned. But in so thinking and speaking, John had before him the disciples and their importance, rather than Christ and His honour. In His reply the Lord in tender grace uses John's word, but rebukes John's thought. "Forbid him not; for he that is not against us is for us." The Lord does not say the man is "with us" but "for us." The disciples indeed were both "with Christ" and "for Christ." The man was "for" Christ, and in this sense was "for" the disciples, for they, too, were "for" Christ. Blessed to be, like the disciples in any true sense with Christ in the place of reproach, but let such beware that they cast no slight upon those who are "for" Christ, even if by reason of their associations they cannot walk with them.

William KellyMark - Introductory

But there is another incident, too, peculiar to Mark, of which we hear directly after this. The Lord rebukes them by taking a child, and thence reading them humility. What a withering censure of their self-exaltation! Even John proves how little the glory of Christ, which makes one content to be nothing, had entered into his heart now. The day is coming when it would all take deep root there — when they would really gather everlasting profit from it; but for the present it was the painful demonstration that there is something more needed than the word even of Jesus. So it is, then, that John immediately after this turns to our Lord, complaining of some one that was casting out demons in His name — the very thing they had failed to do. "Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name." Was not this, then, a matter for thankfulness of heart to God? Not a bit of it! Self in John took fire at it, and became the mouthpiece of the strong feeling which animated them all. "Master, we saw" — not "I" merely; he spake for all the rest. "We saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followed not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us." It is evident, then, that no previous reproof had in any way purged out the self-exalting spirit, for here it was again in full force; but Jesus said, "Forbid him not." Another most weighty lesson in the service of Christ is this. The question here is not one of dishonour done to Christ. None in this case contemplates or allows any act whatever contrary to His name. On the contrary, it was a servant going forward against the enemy, believing in the efficacy of the Lord's name. Had it been a question of enemies or false friends of Christ, overthrowing or undermining His glory, he that "is not for him is against him; and he that gathereth not with him scattereth abroad." Wherever it is a question of a true or a false Christ, there cannot be a compromise of one jot of His glory. But where, on the contrary, it was one who may have been unintelligent, perhaps, and who certainly had not been so favoured in point of circumstances as the disciples, yet who knew the value and efficacy of His name, Jesus graciously shields him. "Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part." He certainly had faith in the Lord's name; and by faith in that name he was mighty to do what, alas! disciples were feeble to do. It was evident that there was a spirit of jealousy, and that the power which manifestly wrought in one who had never been so privileged outwardly as they, instead of humbling the disciples to think of their own shortcoming and lack of faith, led even John to cast about for some fault to find, some plea for restraining him whom God had honoured.

William KellyLuke : Part 1

"And John answered and said, Master, we saw some one casting out demons in thy name; and we forbad him, because he follows not with us. And Jesus said to him, Forbid [him] not; for he that is not against you is for you." Here comes a considerably subtler form of self. The grossest form was in the question which of them should be greatest; but now comes a certain disguise of self, which consists in apparent zeal for the Master's honour. "Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he follows not with us." What a reason! It was well, it was an immense honour, to follow Jesus; but John betrayed himself by his very language "he follows not with us." Had he kept Jesus before his eye, he never would have uttered the complaint. He would have seen that it was for Jesus to call, as they had been chosen by Him in pure grace unto this honour. It was evident that John looked at it as an interference with the apostles, and a failure in acknowledging their importance. But Jesus, superior to everything of a fleshly nature, answers, "Forbid him not; for he that is not against you is for you." Jesus, in the sense of His humiliation and looking for it even unto death, owns whatever is of God. It was not Satan that cast out Satan. It was the power of God that cast out the demons. Nay, more than this. The demons were cast out in the name of Jesus; why, then, should John have a jealousy so narrow and unworthy? Why should he not own the power that answered to his Master's name. Ah! was it really his Master and not himself that he was thinking of? "He that is not against you is for you." Where it was a question of the unbelief of the nation, Where Jesus was utterly despised, the word then was, "He that is not with me is against me." The converse principle is true, no doubt; but where there was a simple-hearted man, serving God according to the measure of his faith, the Lord vindicates his action in His name. By John's own account the power was there which answered to the name of Jesus. There was one who resisted the demons, using the name of Jesus against them. And there was power; for he did cast them out, and this through the name of Jesus. Had there, therefore, been a true care for the glory of the Lord Jesus, John would rather have rejoiced than have sought his prejudice. "Forbid him not," says the Lord, "for he that is not against you is for you."243 †"Against you is for you": so Edd., following BCDLΞ, 33, Old Lat., Syrrcu sin, Memph. Goth. Aeth. Arm. "Against you is for us," ℵpm AΔ. E (T.R.), etc., have "against us is for us" (Mark).

Leslie M. GrantHow can we avoid Sectarianism?

Sadly, the opposite is seen in Luke 9:49, when John told the Lord, 'Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him, because he does not follow with us.' Of course this is a selfish, sectarian attitude that the Lord has to correct by gently saying, Do not forbid him, for he who is not against us is on our side. Are we not thankful that the Lord's work is being carried on, by whoever it may be? We must be careful to guard against considering that our company is the only one that can have the Lord's approval. Of course it is right to remain in a place of unsectarian doctrine in which the Lord has put us, but it is wrong to allow ourselves a sectarian attitude in that place. On the other hand, we may be thankful to observe that there are Christians who do manifest an unsectarian attitude, though they may be found in a sectarian position. In such cases, their attitude is better than their position.

F. B. HoleLuke

This episode evidently stirred John's conscience so that he mentioned a case that had occurred some time before. They had forbidden some zealous worker because "he follows not with us." They had attached far too much importance to the "us" which, after all, is but a group of individuals each of which is of no importance in himself. All the importance, as the Lord has just shown them, lay in the Name. Now the one who had cast out the demons — the very thing they had just failed to do — had done so "in Thy Name." So he had the power of the Name and they had the imagined importance of the "us." The Lord dealt gently with John yet firmly. The man was not to be forbidden. He was for the Lord and not against Him.

J. N. DarbyNotes on the Gospel of Luke

102 Mark how conscious the Lord was of His utter rejection by man; so utter that He said, he that is not against us is proved to be for us. Christ was perfect; therefore He was a perfect test to men's consciences; and, as far as He is manifested in us, we shall be so also. Paul could say, "If our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost." Why could he say so? Because it went out from him as pure as it went in. John said, "We forbad him, because he followeth not with us." That tells the whole tale. They were thinking of themselves, not of Christ; of their own importance, and not His honour. If it had been His importance, they would have thought how blessed it was to find the effect of His name, and rejoiced to know how His power was being exercised by man. But no; they were looking at themselves as well as at the Messiah. Even John was thus using Christ Himself to further his own importance. And is there not something in us of the same thing, a satisfaction at that which aggrandises self as well as Christ, instead of seeking the honour of Christ alone? The Lord takes him up and answers him on the ground of His utter rejection, which was coming. "He that is not against us is for us." And mark that the very selfishness of John brings out the grace of Christ. He says "us." You do not know the lot you have with Me. If you find one who can use the power of My name, rejoice in it.

William KellyJesus, the Son of God

But there is another passage to be noticed. briefly, in Mark 9:40, "He that is not against us, is on our part." Here it is a question of largeness of heart in what is wrought, and not of the paramount claims of Christ personally. Hence it is no longer "me" but "us" and "on our part." "And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out demons in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us, is on our part." The danger is here of narrowness in service, not of speaking against the Son of man and the Holy Spirit. The faithful should appreciate true service wherever it is, but can only gather with Christ. We have to bear this in mind. There is such a thing as, work done in the name of the Lord Jesus, which is not done within the circle that is formed round the true centre. And what have we to do? Meddling as little as possible we should heartily own whatever is done in His name, but cleave to Himself as our security as well as our joy and boast.

C. E. StuartThe Gospel According to Luke

Sectarianism was next dealt with, an incident which had occurred furnishing the opportunity. On this occasion John was the spokesman: "Master, we saw one casting out devils [rather, demons] in Thy name: and we forbad him, because he follows not with us." The Lord's answer, helpful now as then, is recorded: "Forbid him not; for he that is not against you is for you" (Luke 9:49-50). Where it is a question of Christ, the Lord has said, "He that is not with Me is against Me" (11:23). There is no middle path. Where it is a question of working in His name, "he that is not against you," He would say, "is for you." Such a one is working in the common cause, and owns, and is owned by the common Master. No one, therefore, is to forbid him.

The Christian's Friend"Unto Us"

The sin of which we are speaking, is not confined to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to Old Testament times. It has beset the people of God in all ages, and was repeated by the disciples of Christ, whose self-importance betrayed itself on a certain occasion, when they saw one doing what they ought to have been able to do, but could not, through lack of prayer and fasting. And John, addressing the Lord, said: "Master, we saw one casting out devils in Thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us." But the Lord replied, "Forbid him not! for there is no man which shall do a miracle in My name, that can speak lightly of Me. For he that is not against us is on our part." (Mark 9:38-40.) This reply not only declares His faithfulness in reproving His people for their pride, but also proclaims His grace in claiming all that love His name, and own His authority.

Verses

  • Galatians 3:28There is no Jew nor Greek; there is no bondman nor freeman; there is no male and female; for ye are all one in Christ Jesus
  • John 17:20–2320And I do not demand for these only, but also for those who believe on me through their word; 21that they may be all one, as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us, that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22And the glory which thou hast given me I have given them, that they may be one, as we are one; 23I in them and thou in me, that they may be perfected into one [and] that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and [that] thou hast loved them as thou hast loved me.
  • Mark 9:38–4038And John answered him saying, Teacher, we saw some one casting out demons in thy name, who does not follow us, and we forbad him, because he does not follow us. 39But Jesus said, Forbid him not; for there is no one who shall do a miracle in my name, and be able soon [after] to speak ill of me; 40for he who is not against us is for us.