Why God suffering

Answered from the commentary of J. T. Mawson, The Bible Treasury, William Kelly and 5 others

Suffering is in the world because sin entered it, bringing death and misery, and because the world has turned from God and lies under evil. Yet suffering does not prove that the sufferer is guilty of some particular sin: though sin brings suffering as a general rule, God’s dealings are not limited to punishment. He allows His people to suffer to discipline and teach them, to bring them to know themselves and Him, and to form them for glory. The suffering may be corrective, preventive, or promotive, and God remains in control of its measure and purpose.

God’s answer to suffering is also shown in Christ: He suffered to uphold God’s holiness and righteousness, to bear sin’s judgment, to overcome Satan, and to bring many to glory. He also entered human sorrow in sympathy, and as priest can sustain His people in their trials. The authors who speak of Christ bearing sickness and grief during His ministry distinguish that sympathetic bearing from atonement; they say He bore sin’s judgment alone at the cross. Suffering is painful, but for those who love God it is used for good, and it will give way to glory.

Verses: Job 1:20, Job 1:21, Job 1:22, Job 2:9, Job 2:10, Job 3:1, Job 3:2, Job 3:3, Job 3:4, Job 3:5, Job 3:6, Job 3:7, Job 3:8, Job 3:9, Job 3:10, Job 3:11, Job 3:12, Job 3:13, Job 3:14, Job 3:15, Job 3:16, Job 3:17, Job 3:18, Job 3:19, Job 3:20, Job 3:21, Job 3:22, Job 3:23, Job 3:24, Job 3:25, Job 3:26, Job 38:1, Psalms 22:1, Psalms 22:2, Psalms 34:18, Psalms 46:1, Psalms 73:1, Psalms 73:2, Psalms 73:3, Psalms 73:4, Psalms 73:5, Psalms 73:6, Psalms 73:7, Psalms 73:8, Psalms 73:9, Psalms 73:10, Psalms 73:11, Psalms 73:12, Psalms 73:13, Psalms 73:14, Psalms 73:15, Psalms 73:16, Psalms 73:17, Psalms 73:18, Psalms 73:19, Psalms 73:20, Psalms 73:21, Psalms 73:22, Psalms 73:23, Psalms 73:24, Psalms 73:25, Psalms 73:26, Psalms 73:27, Psalms 73:28, Isaiah 53:3, Isaiah 53:4, Isaiah 53:5, Lamentations 3:31, Lamentations 3:32, Lamentations 3:33, Matthew 5:4, Matthew 26:36, Matthew 26:37, Matthew 26:38, Matthew 26:39, Matthew 26:40, Matthew 26:41, Matthew 26:42, Matthew 26:43, Matthew 26:44, Matthew 26:45, Matthew 26:46, Matthew 27:46, Luke 13:1, Luke 13:2, Luke 13:3, Luke 13:4, Luke 13:5, John 9:1, John 9:2, John 9:3, John 11:32, John 11:33, John 11:34, John 11:35, John 11:36, John 16:33, Romans 5:3, Romans 5:4, Romans 5:5, Romans 8:18, Romans 8:19, Romans 8:20, Romans 8:21, Romans 8:22, Romans 8:23, Romans 8:24, Romans 8:25, Romans 8:26, Romans 8:27, Romans 8:28, Romans 8:29, Romans 8:30, Romans 8:31, Romans 8:32, Romans 8:33, Romans 8:34, Romans 8:35, Romans 8:36, Romans 8:37, Romans 8:38, Romans 8:39, 2 Corinthians 1:3, 2 Corinthians 1:4, 2 Corinthians 1:5, 2 Corinthians 4:16, 2 Corinthians 4:17, 2 Corinthians 4:18, 2 Corinthians 12:7, 2 Corinthians 12:8, 2 Corinthians 12:9, 2 Corinthians 12:10, Philippians 1:29, Philippians 3:10, Colossians 1:24, 2 Timothy 3:12, Hebrews 2:10, Hebrews 4:15, Hebrews 12:5, Hebrews 12:6, Hebrews 12:7, Hebrews 12:8, Hebrews 12:9, Hebrews 12:10, Hebrews 12:11, 1 Peter 1:6, 1 Peter 1:7, 1 Peter 2:21, 1 Peter 2:22, 1 Peter 2:23, 1 Peter 2:24, 1 Peter 4:12, 1 Peter 4:13, 1 Peter 4:14, 1 Peter 4:15, 1 Peter 4:16, 1 Peter 4:17, 1 Peter 4:18, 1 Peter 4:19, Revelation 21:4

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What the commentators say

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Frank Binford HoleThe Redeemer And The Redeemed

Here is the way in which the whole question may be divinely set. Sin entails suffering, the world is full of it because sin dominates the earth. Suffering beyond the grave is entailed for those who die unconverted. Why? Because sin entails suffering. Why did Christ suffer? He suffered for sin. It is true in a certain sense that He suffered for righteousness because He was in an unrighteous world, there was a perfect man in the midst of sinful men, and they hated Him and His Father and they put Him out by way of the malefactors gibbet, the cross. But when He was thus put out by the action of sinful men something else happened, He offered Himself as the great atoning sacrifice, what Scripture calls the propitiation, that is to say, He said, in effect, ‘Let me be the One who bears the judgment and the wrath.’ How could He do it? He could do it on this universal scale because of who He really was. Had He not been the mighty Son of God, had He not been God manifest in the flesh, He could not have done it. What a wonderful thing! The God who acts in righteousness and who has to bring in judgment upon sin came in the Person of His Son into manhood to bear the judgment!

A. J. PollockThe Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ

The truth is that Christ suffered to manifest God’s love in bearing our judgment. “Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us, and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins” (1 John 4:9-10).

J. N. DarbyA Letter on Atonement

25 Thus law, psalms, and prophets agree; Old and New Testaments alike proclaim Christ's suffering from God, and before God, because of our sins. The Lord announced it; the apostles - Paul especially - are full of it; and not least the beloved disciple, who most presses God's love which is really enhanced by it, of which the depth and strength are only there known where Christ's drinking this cup from the Father is owned. Divine love is not all the truth, nor man's hatred, nor Satan's power; but deeper than all is Christ's offering Himself to God as a sacrifice for sins. Love indeed is enfeebled incalculably by not seeing the truth that Christ bore the judgment of our sins at God's hand. Rather is love degraded into indifference to man's sins, and disregard of God's holiness and majesty, and of such warnings as are in Deut. 27:26; Rom. 2:9; Heb. 10:31. The scriptures cited prove, on the contrary, that expiation was essential for God's honour if He would save guilty man, even though he believed. Judgment was born by Christ that grace might flow out to the sinner. It is therefore now God's righteousness as well as His grace.

Frederick W. GrantDivision 2

And a Saviour from sin must be a sufferer: power alone cannot suffice: there are necessities of the divine nature which condition the forth-putting of divine power. So here "it became Him for whom are all things and by whom are all things" — to whom in their origin and end all things look — "in bringing many sons to glory, to make the Captain (the Leader or Originator) of their salvation perfect through sufferings." The moral conditions required a penalty. Divine holiness must be vindicated at personal cost, but divine love is bent upon bringing sons to glory. There could be no perfecting of His blessed Person; but there must be the required conditions for becoming a Saviour.

Arno Clemens GaebeleinThe Epistle to the Hebrews

This salvation work is now more fully mentioned in the second part of this chapter. He is spoken of as the captain (author) of the salvation of the many sons He is bringing to glory. And as the originator and leader of their salvation He had to suffer and die. Not His person was to be perfected, for He is perfect; but He had to be perfected through suffering as a Saviour. "For it became Him for whom are all things and by whom are all things in bringing many sons unto glory to make the captain of their salvation perfect through suffering." Here God's eternal purpose is wonderfully revealed. He purposed before the foundation, knowing the coming ruin of man, to bring many sons unto glory. This is divine love. But God's holiness had to be vindicated, and therefore the Son of God became man to suffer as the captain of their (the many sons) salvation.

J. N. DarbyWhat is man?

52 The majesty and righteousness of God must be maintained, and none could have vindicated them but Christ: there never could have been security for God's glory otherwise. It became Him to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings - "perfect," that is, in the full result of glory - to bring Him into the state of a glorified Man if He would bring sons to glory. In Himself He was the perfect One; He always is in the bosom of the Father; and all that He did was the Father's delight, so that, if I may reverentially use the expression, the Father could not be silent, but opens the heavens and says, "This is my beloved Son." But in the Epistle to the Hebrews, it is a question of the majesty of God, and we do not find "Father."

J. N. DarbyThe Sufferings of Christ

Now it is the sense of the true bearing of wrath — direct wrath from God — when made sin and suffering it, the being, as to the state of His soul, really forsaken of God, and because of sin, so that it was necessary and deserved, though through others, but really undergone — that it is of the very last importance, fundamentally important, to keep quite clear and fast hold of and maintain, and to hold as a clear foundation of everlasting truth. As regards the truth itself, I repeat, no divinely-taught mind, however obscure it may be as to the doctrine of the proper nature and character of Christ's living sufferings — however it may (through feelings) run up the depths of Christ's sorrow into mixing with those sorrows His atoning work — no divinely-taught mind will, as to the positive truth, fail to distinguish from all else the reality of Christ's own soul bearing the direct inflicted wrath of God, and the forsaking of God, which in grace He underwent — will fail to distinguish this from all other sorrow and suffering, however deep, in which He could say, for example, "But as for me, my prayer is unto thee in an acceptable time," in which He did not say, "But thou hearest not." He may find many passages difficult to explain — may be confused by the reasonings of others. He may, as to his feelings, confuse anticipating the cup of wrath and drinking it. We have all, more or less, done this; but when the real bearing of wrath from God, the wrath of God for sin, is before his soul and conscience, he will bow his soul before that solemn work, he will know that Christ stood alone in it: nor will he ever mix it up, for one instant, with sorrow, however deep, in which others could bear a part. In all sorrows of active love, in all brought upon us by the government of God for sin, we — at any rate man — (as for example the Jewish remnant, and, in principle, sinners under the law) can bear a thankful part, or have to bow under it. Reproach may break man's heart; he may stand alone and be forsaken of men; he may cry out of the depths, because of sin; but bear the weight of wrath he knows he could not. He adores when he finds another has done it. But this demands a more orderly exposition.

181 There is a double character of suffering besides atoning work, which Christ has entered into and which others can feel: the sufferings arising from active love in the world; and the sorrow arising from the sense of chastenings in respect of sin, and these mixed with the pressure of Satan's power on the soul, and the terror of foreseen wrath. In the former we suffer with Christ as privilege; in the latter we suffer for our folly and under God's hand, but Christ has entered into it. He sympathizes with us. But all this is distinct from suffering instead of us, so as to save us from the suffering, undergoing God's wrath that we might not. In atonement He suffers for us, in service we suffer with Him: in our distresses about sin and agony of mind He felt with us.

J. N. DarbyLecture on Hebrews 2

These are the four great purposes of His sufferings - the glory of God - the propitiation for sin - the overcoming the power of Satan - and the entering into all our sorrows. This last is what He now does as Priest; He is touched with the feeling of our infirmities. It became God, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the Captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. The moment this Blessed One had undertaken our cause,

Alfred E. BouterUnderstanding The Will Of God

In 1983 a famous Rabbi in the US, Harold Kushner, published a book about the problem of suffering. In it he suggested that we should not blame God for sufferings (which is right); then he goes on to say that God is good, but that He cannot help it when evil befalls His people (which, of course, is a wrong thesis). Perhaps we may remind ourselves at this point of Romans 8:28, where we see the very opposite of Kushner's claim. God not only allows adverse circumstances, He is even in full control and uses them to form believers in His school' (Rom. 5:3-5; Jam. 1:3). His ways ultimately, and surely lead to the fulfilment of His purpose, that we should be conformed to Christ, the Firstborn among many brethren (Rom. 8:29). Why do we have sufferings? Is it not also, to make us realize that we are living in a world which is in direct opposition to God's will? (cf. 1 Peter 2:15).

William KellyNotes on Job

The problem handled in the book is the moral government of God: how to conciliate His righteousness with the sufferings, and even extreme sufferings, of a just and godly man? how to understand the permission of evil, in its worst form of malignant persecution, with His own good, and this before and apart from His revelation in Christ and by redemption? The books of Moses prepare the way for His government of a people, His own elect Israel, where all was to be manifest and a testimony before the world. Here it is His dealings with a soul before the true light shone, and the veil was rent, and sin condemned in the cross, along with the expression of exercises of heart and conscience under God's dealings. Now that we are reconciled to God by Christ's death and know ourselves to be in Christ before God, there is or ought to be a wholly new experience. But it is of the deepest interest and profit to see how the believer was enabled, not merely to walk uprightly when things were prosperous in an evil world but to confide in God spite of adversity and crushing affliction, and not only to submit to His will as chastening but to measure and abhor himself in dust and ashes before God. The beginning teaches that not Satan but God is the source of the action, the middle that He only and effectually carries forward the true lesson for the soul, the end that He is exceeding pitiful and of tender mercy. A whole long book devoted to the exercises of a soul in suffering, and he a Gentile, and this in the canon of the Jewish scriptures from the first! But it is not yet what some call the "mystery of the cross:" this was reserved for Christ.

Verses

  • Job 1:20–2220And Job rose up, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down on the ground, and worshipped; 21and he said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither Jehovah gave, and Jehovah hath taken away; blessed be the name of Jehovah! 22In all this Job sinned not, nor ascribed anything unseemly to God.
  • Job 2:9–109And his wife said to him, Dost thou still remain firm in thine integrity? curse God and die. 10But he said to her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. We have also received good from God, and should we not receive evil? In all this Job did not sin with his lips.
  • Job 3:1–261After this, Job opened his mouth and cursed his day. 2And Job answered and said, 3Let the day perish in which I was born, and the night that said, There is a man child conceived. 4That day — let it be darkness, let not +God care for it from above, neither let light shine upon it 5Let darkness and the shadow of death claim it; let clouds dwell upon it; let darkeners of the day terrify it. 6That night — let gloom seize upon it; let it not rejoice among the days of the year; let it not come into the number of the months. 7Behold, let that night be barren; let no joyful sound come therein; 8Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to rouse Leviathan; 9Let the stars of its twilight be dark; let it wait for light, and have none, neither let it see the eyelids of the dawn 10Because it shut not up the doors of the womb that bore me, and hid not trouble from mine eyes. 11Wherefore did I not die from the womb, — come forth from the belly and expire? 12Why did the knees meet me? and wherefore the breasts, that I should suck? 13For now should I have lain down and been quiet; I should have slept then had I been at rest, 14With kings and counsellors of the earth, who build desolate places for themselves, 15Or with princes who had gold, who filled their houses with silver; 16Or as a hidden untimely birth I had not been; as infants that have not seen the light. 17There the wicked cease from troubling; and there the wearied are at rest. 18The prisoners together are at ease; they hear not the voice of the taskmaster. 19The small and great are there, and the bondman freed from his master. 20Wherefore is light given to him that is in trouble, and life to those bitter of soul, 21Who long for death, and it [cometh] not, and dig for it more than for hidden treasures; 22Who rejoice even exultingly and are glad when they find the grave? — 23To the man whose way is hidden, and whom +God hath hedged in? 24For my sighing cometh before my bread, and my groanings are poured out like the waters. 25For I feared a fear, and it hath come upon me, and that which I dreaded hath come to me. 26I was not in safety, neither had I quietness, neither was I at rest, and trouble came.