Who came first, Jesus or Moses?

Answered from the commentary of F. B. Hole, C. E. Stuart, William Kelly and 10 others

Jesus came first. As the eternal Son and Word He existed before Moses, before Abraham and before all creation, though He was born as a man about fifteen centuries after Moses lived. His own words, "Before Abraham was, I AM" (John 8:58), do not mean only that He was older than Abraham. They mean that He is eternal, with no beginning and no end. "I AM" is the very name God gave of Himself to Moses at the bush (Exodus 3:14), so the One who sent Moses is the same Person who later stood on earth as a man. He could as truly have said, "Before Adam was, I am," because all things were made by Him. "In the beginning was the Word" (John 1:1) carries us back before creation itself, and "He is before all things" (Colossians 1:17) says plainly that the Son had no beginning. So it was Christ who was with Israel in Egypt and through all their wanderings under Moses, the Rock that followed them (1 Corinthians 10:4).

As to His birth in time, Moses came first. Moses lived around 1500–1400 BC, and the Exodus and the giving of the law are dated 1491 BC. Christ was born about 5 BC, in the last days of Herod's reign. Thus "the law was given by Moses; grace and truth came by Jesus Christ" (John 1:17), and the fifteen centuries from Moses to Christ were the age of law. Moses himself looked forward to Christ. He foretold a Prophet like himself whom all must hear (Deuteronomy 18:15), and that Prophet is Christ. The Lord also said that Moses wrote of Him (John 5:46). Being born later did not make Him less than Moses. He is counted worthy of more glory than Moses (Hebrews 3:3), as the builder of a house has more honour than the house. Moses was a servant in God's house, while Christ is the Son over it, and He is God.

Verses: John 8:58, John 1:1, John 1:2, John 1:3, Galatians 3:17, Exodus 3:14, John 1:17, Hebrews 3:3, Luke 2:1, Luke 2:2, Luke 2:3, Luke 2:4, Luke 2:5, Luke 2:6, Luke 2:7, Exodus 2:10, John 1:15, Colossians 1:17, Deuteronomy 18:15, Acts 3:22, Hebrews 11:26, 1 Corinthians 10:4, John 5:46, Luke 24:27, Matthew 17:3, John 17:5, Micah 5:2, Galatians 4:4

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J. T. MawsonMiscellaneous Writings

From the beginning of his mission he had spoken of Him, but when the time arrived and the Lord was about to enter on His public ministry in the world we read “John bare witness of Him and cried, saying, This is He of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me, for He was before me.” There would have been neither sense nor reason in John's testimony if Jesus had not been more than man, for John entered the world before He did. But John began his existence at his birth, the goings forth of the One of whom he spoke were from Eternity, and John being full of the Holy Ghost knew that the lowly Nazarene was his Lord. He was before John, before Abraham, before the beginning, the great I AM.

F. B. HoleJohn

The Jews, as ever, utterly misunderstood His words. He spoke of Abraham seeing His day, and they thought it meant a claim on His part to have seen Abraham. Their mistake served to bring out the great and emphatic pronouncement, "Before Abraham was, I AM." At a certain moment Abraham "was." The verb used here is the same as in John 1:14, where we read that the Word "was made" or "became" flesh. The verb for "am" is the one signifying abiding existence, as used in John 1:18; the Son "is" in the bosom of the Father; and it is used in the past tense, as to the Word in the bygone eternity, in John 1:1 and 2. Jesus therefore said, Before Abraham came into existence, I eternally AM.

C. E. StuartThe Gospel of John

These last words of Christ, considering, too, the place in which they were uttered, might have led them to pause, and to review their ways. Abraham was but a creature. There was a time, therefore, when he did not exist. Referring to that, it could rightly be said, "Before Abraham was." What follows was intended to mark the great difference between Abraham and Himself; for of Himself He could say, "I am." Now "I am" was God's announcement about Himself to Moses (Ex. 3:14). The Lord declared, therefore, that He was the Eternal One, who had no beginning, and will have no end. In the past He was, "I am." In the present He is, "I am." In the future, and for ever, He will be, "I am." Such was the meaning of His words, revealing to those people that He was God.

William KellyJohn 7 - 12

It was said: the good confession before the Jews, the truth of truths, the infinite mystery of His Person, which to know is to know the true God and eternal life, as He is both. Such He was, such He is, from everlasting to everlasting. Incarnation in no way impeached it, but rather gave occasion for its revelation in man to men. He Who was God is become man, and as He cannot cease to be God, so He will not cease to be man. He is the Eternal, though also a man, and has taken manhood into union with Himself, the Son the Word, not with God only, but God too. "Before Abraham was (γενέσθαι), I am" (εἰμί). Abraham came into being. Jesus is God, and God is. "I am" is the expression of eternal subsistence, of Godhead. He could as truly have said, Before Adam was, I am; but the question was about Abraham, and with that calm dignity which never goes beyond the needed truth, He asserts it, and no more; but what He asserts could not be true, were He not the ever-present and unchanging One, the I AM before Adam, angels, and all things; as, indeed, He it was Who created them. All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that has been made.

Morrish Bible DictionaryBible Dictionary C 1

The principal events stand thus: B.C. 4004 Adam created. 2948 Noah born. 2348 The Flood. 1996 Abraham born. 1921 Call of Abraham. 1896 Isaac born. 1836 Jacob born. 1706 The Israelites enter Egypt. 1491 The Exodus. The law given. 1451 The Israelites cross the Jordan. 1444 The division of the land. (See JUDGES.) 1095 Saul anointed king: the kingdom begins. 1055 David, king. 1015 Solomon, king. 1005 Dedication of the Temple. 975 Division of the kingdom. (See KINGS.) (776 Era of the Olympiads begins.) (753 Rome built: era of A.U.C. begins.) 740 Captivity of the two and a half tribes east of the Jordan. 721 End of the kingdom of Israel. 658 Manasseh carried to Babylon. 606 Jerusalem taken: first captivity of Judah. 605 Nebuchadnezzar reigns alone. Time of the Gentiles begins in the first great empire — Babylon. 599 Jerusalem re-taken: the great captivity. 588 Jerusalem re-taken and destroyed. 538 Belshazzar slain: the second great empire commences. The Medes and Persians. 536 Cyrus reigns alone. The 70 years of Jer. 25:11-12 end. The Jews return. Ezra 1, 2: (See PERSIA.) 475 Artaxerxes succeeds Xerxes. 455 Artaxerxes commissions Nehemiah to build Jerusalem. The Seventy Weeks of Daniel begin. 336 Alexander the Great, head of the third great empire — The Greek. 323 Death of Alexander the Great: his four Generals divide the kingdom, but it mainly merged into two kingdoms: Egypt, 'kings of the South,' and Syria, 'kings of the north.' (See ANTIOCHUS.) 191 All Asia Minor on the west of Mount Taurus delivered to Rome. 166 to about 65 The times of the Maccabees. In 166 Jerusalem was recovered and the temple re-dedicated. 65 Rome, the fourth great empire, rapidly gains ascendancy. Syria becomes a Roman province. In 63 Judaea is subjected to Rome. In 30 Egypt becomes a Roman province. 40 Herod is appointed by Rome king of Judaea. 20 Herod begins to rebuild the temple 6 Birth of John the Baptist. 5 Birth of Christ. (See NEW TESTAMENT.)

W. G. TurnerAge after Age

The more extended period of time now indicated upon the Chart, the fifteen centuries from MOSES to CHRIST, were the times of the prophets, priests and kings, and may be termed the Age of Law and Kingly government. "The law was given by MOSES; grace and truth came by JESUS CHRIST." (John 1:17.) And of the Law, its period of duration is shown by ST. PAUL (Gal. 3:24) to have been "unto CHRIST," that is until His coming in grace.

A. J. PollockThe Apostasy of Christendom

And Abraham lived 400 years before Moses was born. Modernists do not like to be reminded of how dogmatic they were in their statement that Moses could not have written the Pentateuch because writing, they said, was then not known. Now we know differently.

Arend RemmersThe Book Of Genesis

Moses lived around 1500-1400 BC. The highly developed hieroglyphic writing existed already in Egypt, as its origins can be traced back to 3000 BC. The Sumerian pictograms and the Assyrian-Babylonian cuneiform also date back that far.

VariousVarious

Here we have the present tense used to deduce eternity, as it is in some other places in the Scriptures. The Lord said "Before Abraham was, I AM" and thereby showed that HE was eternal. If He had said "Before Abraham was, I was", it need only have meant that He was older than Abraham, but the present tense gives the sense of eternal existence — no beginning and no end. In John 8:24, the Lord said, "If ye believe not that I AM, ye shall die in your sins". The insertion of the pronoun "he" in the A.V. is quite unwarranted. The context does not show that the Lord had said that He was anybody that the "He" could refer to. It is the assertion of His eternal Godhead. There are other similar passages.

L. M. GrantComments on the Book of Exodus

Moses was filled with trepidation, as God's servants usually are when called to do His work. He asks that, when he tells the Israelites that the God of their fathers has sent him, what will he say when they ask as to God's name. However, the weakness of Moses' faith does give occasion for God to reveal one great aspect of His name which should encourage every believer. He tells Moses, “I am I who am” (v. 14 — Numerical Bible). Therefore Moses was to declare, “I Am has sent me to you.” In this name is implied the fact that God is the self-existent, eternally existent One. With Him there is no question of past and future, as there is with us. He is the omnipresent One, infinite and eternal. this name is equally applied to the Lord Jesus, who uses the expression many times in the Gospel of John, and seals the matter with the declaration, “Most assuredly I say to you, Before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). Wonderful name to fill a believer's heart with adoration!

Verses

  • John 8:58Jesus said to them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
  • John 1:1–31In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things received being through him, and without him not one [thing] received being which has received being.
  • Galatians 3:17Now I say this, A covenant confirmed beforehand by God, the law, which took place four hundred and thirty years after, does not annul, so as to make the promise of no effect.
  • Exodus 3:14And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM. And he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel I AM hath sent me unto you.
  • John 1:17For the law was given by Moses grace and truth subsists through Jesus Christ.
  • Hebrews 3:3For he has been counted worthy of greater glory than Moses, by how much he that has built it has more honour than the house.