John 6:5–7

John 6:5

Jesus then, lifting up his eyes and seeing that a great crowd is coming to him, says to Philip, Whence shall we buy loaves that these may eat?

A hungry crowd follows Jesus in Galilee, and the disciples have no way to feed them. He opens with a question to one man. The next verse tells us He already had the answer.

The initiative is His

One writer notes what John leaves out here, and who fills the picture instead.

The scene shifts completely away from Jerusalem. We see the Lord in Galilee... A great crowd follows Him because of the signs He worked on the sick. None of the reasons given in the other Gospel accounts appear here. There is no mention of the beheading of John the Baptist, no mention of the apostles' return from their mission, and no mention of the need for rest after teaching. Jesus fills the picture: all is in His hand. It is He who takes the initiative.

William Kelly

What made Him lift up His eyes

One writer asks what it was in that sight that moved Him.

What was it that moved Jesus when He lifted up His eyes and saw a great crowd coming to Him? Was it satisfaction with His success? Was that what filled the heart of the "good Shepherd," who had come to seek the lost sheep of the house of Israel? No. It was their need that made His heart yearn over them. First came their outward need, and He met that with five loaves and two fish. But what was this outward need compared with the spiritual need of those five thousand precious souls! Sadly, they themselves had very little sense of it, if any at all.

Julius A Von Poseck

A question asked for Philip's sake

Some have argued that when Jesus asked a question, He asked because He did not know. One writer uses this passage to answer the claim.

We are told that when our Lord "asked for information, it was because He wanted it"... John 6:5-6 destroys this unworthy conclusion completely and plainly. There the Lord said to Philip, "Where are we to buy bread, so that these people may eat?" And we read, "He said this to test him, for He Himself knew what He would do."... It needs no study of Socrates to know that someone may ask a question for the sake of the person he asks.

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Why John opens the miracle this way

Each Gospel writer begins this story at a different point. One commentator reads that difference as a clue to how John presents Jesus.

In Matthew He had been busy healing the sick, a feature which marked Him out as the Christ, the Messiah of Israel. From Mark we learn that He had been teaching, for he brings Him before his readers as the Teacher, or Prophet... John was there himself, as one of the twelve apostles. Yet he leaves out all mention of what the Lord had been doing before the evening of that day drew in. He opens the account of the sign with the Lord's question to Philip... Presenting Him to his readers as a Divine Person, he notices His foreknowledge and His power.

C E Stuart

Philip's arithmetic

The word "where" was the heart of the question. Philip never answered it — he changed the subject to money.

The Lord raises the question with Philip as to where to buy bread for the need of the crowd. It is a question to exercise not only Philip, but everyone. Where is there enough grace to meet the crying need of all mankind? But Philip fails the test: his faith did not simply rest on the greatness of his Lord, as it should have. He does not even consider "where" to buy, but only sees the poverty of their finances in this matter.

L. M. Grant

Andrew fared no better. The Lord waited for his answer before acting.

Still, He waits for the hopeless words of Andrew, who came from the same town as Philip. He would teach everyone now what His gracious power loves to do with the little and the despised, even for the greatest need... And where was Peter? Where was John, the disciple He loved? Nowhere in faith.

William Kelly

Why this steadies us

The question tested Philip. The reason behind it steadies every reader since.

Difficulties are allowed to arise among the people of God that no man can solve. They come to test us... But we are told that "He Himself knew what He would do." Those words are our assurance. No difficulty will ever arise in our own paths, or among the people of God, that He cannot solve. In the last and difficult days, teachers and leaders may fail us. But there is One to whom we can turn on the darkest day and in the face of the greatest difficulty. We can be certain that He knows what to do.

Hamilton Smith

Summary

- He sees first. He lifts His eyes and takes the initiative. The whole scene is in His hand.

- He is moved by need. Not His own success, but their need — outward need first, and deeper still, spiritual.

- He asks to test. He asked for Philip's sake, not for information. Writers use this verse to answer the claim that Christ asked because He did not know.

- The test exposes us. Philip counted cash instead of counting on his Lord. Andrew, Peter and John were no better.

- He already knew. The foreknowledge that made the question a test makes it a comfort. No difficulty can arise that He has not already answered.

John 6:6

But this he said trying him, for he knew what he was going to do.

The Lord asks Philip where to buy bread for a huge crowd on a bare hillside. John tells us at once why: the question was a test. Jesus was not asking for advice.

The question was a test

No one there could meet the need. Before meeting it Himself, the Lord used it on His own disciples.

A great crowd stands on a barren mountain, in need of food. Human power could not possibly meet that need. But the Lord is there, and He will meet it. Before He does, He uses the difficulty to test the faith of His own disciples. Do they have faith to use the Lord's resources when, on their side, all hope is gone?

Hamilton Smith

He Himself knew

Other servants of God have to ask Him what to do. Here stands One who already knows, and who has the power to act.

Jesus Himself "knew what He would do." In such an emergency, the most you could say of other servants of God is this: they did not know what to do, so they looked to God for direction and got it. But here was One who knew what to do, and knew He had the power to do it. Before Andrew spoke of the boy with his small loaves and fish, He already knew about them. To hold such knowledge, and such power, that you know with absolute certainty what you will do — that belongs to God alone.

F. B. Hole

Some argue that when the Lord asked a question, He must have wanted information He lacked. This verse answers that.

Some say that when our Lord "asked for information, it was because He wanted it"… Turn to John 6:5-6, and that unworthy conclusion is completely and plainly destroyed… You do not need to study Socrates to know that a question can be asked for the sake of the person questioned.

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Why John tells it this way

The way John opens this miracle matches the Christ he presents.

John's gospel presents the Lord as a divine Person, the Word of God, and the Father's only Son. John himself was there all through the day, yet he says nothing about the Lord healing and teaching. He opens the story of the miracle with the Lord's question to Philip… John draws attention to the Lord's foreknowledge and His power. That fits perfectly with the way he presents Christ as the Eternal Son of the Father.

C. E. Stuart

How the test came out

Philip did the arithmetic. Andrew pointed to a boy with five loaves and two fish. Neither of them looked to Christ.

John, however, is careful of His glory. He tells us at once that the question came from no uncertainty in the Lord's own mind. It was to test Philip: He knew what He was going to do. Still, He waits for the hopeless words of Andrew, who came from Philip's town… Andrew was Simon Peter's brother, and he saw the Messiah even before Peter did. Yet he could think of a little boy with five barley loaves and two fish, not of Jesus. And where was Peter? Where John, the disciple that He loved? Nowhere in faith.

William Kelly

Their failure was the point. The question taught the twelve disciples two things at once.

When emergencies arose, He sometimes asked them what to do. Not that He needed advice from anyone. He questioned them to teach them two things: first, how useless they were in themselves in matters like this, and second, how vast the resources were that their Master had at hand.

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The comfort in it for us

God still deals with His people this way.

God lets difficulties arise among His people that no one can overcome, to test us… But we are told that "He himself knew what He would do." Those words assure us that no difficulty will ever arise in our own path, or among the people of God, that He cannot solve. In the last and hardest days, teachers and leaders may fail us. But there is One we can turn to on the darkest day, in the greatest difficulty, sure that He knows what to do.

Hamilton Smith

Often the answer arrives only as we obey.

He often tells us to take a step that involves real trial. In the very act of taking it, we not only see the reason for it, but also get strength to go on.

C. H. Mackintosh

Summary

- He tests. The question to Philip was not a call for help. It was a test of faith, set up by a need no one there could meet.

- He knows. Jesus had no uncertainty. To know exactly what He will do, and to hold the power to do it, belongs to God alone.

- He is not ignorant. He asks a question for the sake of the person questioned, never because He lacks the answer.

- We fail. Philip counted money and Andrew counted loaves; neither counted on the One standing in front of them.

- He supplies. The test taught the twelve disciples their own helplessness and their Master's resources. So no difficulty can arise that He does not already know how to solve.

John 6:7

Philip answered him, Loaves for two hundred denarii are not sufficient for them, that each may have some little [portion].

The Lord has just asked Philip where they could buy bread for a hungry crowd. Philip answers with a price rather than with a look at the One asking. His reply is honest arithmetic — and that is the problem.

A Test Answered With Arithmetic

The Lord was not asking Philip for advice. He was testing him, and Philip answered by pricing the meal instead of weighing the Person in front of him.

The Lord raises the question with Philip as to where to buy bread for the need of the crowd. It is a question that tests not only Philip, but everyone. Where is there enough grace to meet the crying need of all mankind? But Philip fails the test: his faith did not simply depend on the greatness of his Lord, as it should have. He does not even consider "where" to buy, but only sees how little money they have (v. 7).

L. M. Grant

The failure was not in his maths. It was in what never crossed his mind.

Philip's reply proves that he thought such a thing impossible. "Two hundred denarii worth of bread is not enough for them, that every one may take a little," he said. He had no thought of the power of his Master.

J. T. Mawson

What Two Hundred Denarii Meant

The figure is not random. It represents a serious amount of money — and still falls short.

As a test of faith, He asked Philip where they could find bread to feed so many. Philip replied that two hundred denarii — about eight months' wages for a labourer — would only be enough to give each one a little.

W. W. Fereday

There is a second difficulty buried in the reply. Even that sum was beyond them, and there was nowhere to spend it anyway.

The question brought out Philip's sense that feeding them was impossible. "Two hundred denarii worth of bread would not be enough for each of them to get a little" (7) — much less enough for a satisfying meal for everyone. And where in that deserted place could they buy so much bread? It is also unlikely that the apostles had that much money to spend. They often depended on others to supply their bodily needs (Luke 8:1-3).

C. E. Stuart

The Precise Man Who Missed the Person

It is worth noticing which disciple gave this answer. Philip was the careful, accurate one — and accuracy was not enough.

Does it not teach us for the hundredth time how little human accuracy and careful thought can do here? Such matters must be discerned spiritually. For we have evidence that Philip was exact and observant as a man, and perhaps we might add, as a believer. He was the one who so clearly described the marks of the Messiah to Nathanael. He was the one who was sure that two hundred denarii worth of bread would not be enough for the hungry crowd. He was the one who urged Nathanael to come and see for himself the wonderful Person he had met.

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Nor was Philip alone in this. Look at the whole group of disciples, and faith is missing across the board.

The Gospel writer is careful of His glory. He tells us at once that the question came from no uncertainty in Jesus' own mind. He asked it to test Philip: He knew what He was going to do... Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, saw the Messiah even before his brother did. Yet he could think of a little boy with five barley loaves and two fishes, not of Jesus. And where was Peter? Where was John, the disciple whom He loved? Nowhere in faith.

William Kelly

"A Little" Against "As Much As They Wanted"

Philip's best plan still ends in a scrap each. Compare that with how the chapter actually ends.

Philip can only think of the power of money to meet the case; though he has to admit that his plan would only provide the crowd with "a little". How different the Lord, who, when He acts, gives "as much as they would".

Hamilton Smith

Philip's best plan ends with a scrap for each person. The Lord's way runs the other direction.

Philip's way would have been to provide enough bread for the meal, so that each might take "a little". The Lord's way was to provide far more than enough, so that everyone might have "as much as they wanted". We must not think the extra came from the Lord over-estimating the need. He increased the small supply by His almighty power, and He knew exactly how hungry the crowd was, because He knows all things.

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Why the Verse Is Recorded

Philip's miscalculation is preserved because the same test comes to every believer.

God allows difficulties to arise among His people that no human power can overcome. They come in order to test us... But we are told, "He himself knew what He would do." Those words assure us of this: no difficulty will ever arise in our own path, or among the people of God, that He cannot solve.

Hamilton Smith

Summary

- Tested. The Lord's question was a probe of Philip's faith, not a search for advice — He already knew what He would do.

- Counted. Philip answered by counting money — eight months' wages for a labourer. They did not have it, and there was nowhere to spend it.

- Exposed. The most observant and precise disciple failed here. Human accuracy is no substitute for spiritual discernment.

- Measured. Philip's plan ended in "a little" for each person. The Lord's giving ended in "as much as they wanted" — and the surplus was no over-estimate.

- Repeated. The same test comes to us — difficulties beyond our power arise so we learn to turn to the One who always knows what to do.