John 12:20–36

John 12:20 · Darby

And there were certain Greeks among those who came up that they might worship in the feast;

Jerusalem is full for the feast, and among the worshippers are some Greeks — people from outside Israel. Their wish to see Jesus looks like a small thing, yet it turns the direction of the whole chapter, and the Lord answers it by speaking of His own death.

Who these worshippers were

The word "Greeks" here does not mean Jews who spoke Greek. It means people from outside Israel, and that is why they came to Jesus through someone else.

These men were not Hellenists, that is Greek-speaking Jews, but Hellenes — Gentiles, people who were not Jews at all. Their coming, and their wish to see Jesus, opens the third great testimony to the glory of Christ as the Son of Man. A Gentile had no claim on Christ as the Messiah, so these Greeks were right to come to the Lord through the Jewish disciples, just as the Gentile centurion had earlier sent his message to the Lord through the Jewish elders. The Lord at once speaks of Himself as the Son of Man, the title under which He becomes the way of blessing for all people (verse 32).

Modernised from Hamilton SmithOriginal wording

What drew them

What were they looking for? One writer traces their wish back to the emptiness of the gods they already had.

Religion drew them. The gods they worshipped as Gentiles were only "dumb idols," and we can safely assume they were tired of the emptiness of their Greek myths. So they now said they wanted to see Him whose name and fame had spread through the land. Perhaps they expected to find in Him something that would meet their own empty and needy souls.

Modernised from J Wilson SmithOriginal wording

This says something about Jesus, not only about the men who asked.

This is no small testimony in itself to the glory of the person who stood among them. Israel rejected Him, and the despised Gentile looked for Him. The one refused Him; the other asked after Him. The last is first.

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Coming through Philip

The way they came — outsider, then disciple, then Jesus — matches an old picture of the nations taking hold of a Jew. It also points to a day still ahead.

This surely reminds us of Zechariah 8:23, where we read, "In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, 'Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.'" The Greeks did not come to Jesus themselves, but through Philip and Andrew. In the same way, when He comes in His glory as the King of Israel, the nations will see that God has blessed His people, and they will go up to worship at Jerusalem. Then His house will truly be a house of prayer for all nations.

Modernised from James McBroomOriginal wording

Why the Lord answers with His death

His reply looks like it ignores the question. He was looking past these few men to what they stood for, and to the one thing that could bring such people in.

When the Greeks come up to the feast wanting to see Jesus, what does He say? "The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified." He was going to the cross and to death, yet He says the hour had come for Him to be glorified. How could that be? Jesus sees in the Greeks in front of Him a sample of the ingathering of the Gentiles. He knew well that the only thing that would draw the Gentiles was His own cross and His glory in heaven.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

There was a real barrier. They had come to worship, but they stood outside the promises God had made to Israel.

They had come to worship at Jerusalem, yet they were strangers to the covenants of promise. A completely new order of things was needed to bring them in. They had no right to the promises; Jesus must die to lay the foundation for this new order of things.

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Seeing Jesus now

People still want to see Jesus. There is only one place to look.

If the Gentiles were really to see Jesus, if any of us were to see Jesus, how must we see Him, and where? We must see Him taking up a service that the law did not lay upon Him, a voluntary service of love that made Him the Sufferer. We must see Him lifted up on the cross. Jesus would have been no use to us, He would not have been "JESUS" to us at all, if He had not gone to that cross.

Modernised from J. T. MawsonOriginal wording

Summary

- Asked — The nation that had Him refused Him, while outsiders came looking for Him.

- Relayed — Having no claim on Israel's Messiah, they came through Philip and Andrew, a picture of the nations taking hold of a Jew because God is with him.

- Answered — The Lord looked past the few men to the many they represented, and called that moment the hour of the Son of Man's glory.

- Costly — They were strangers to the covenants of promise; only a new order of things could bring them in, and that meant He must die.

- Seen — Anyone who wants to see Jesus must see Him at the cross; without that cross He would be no use to us at all.

John 12:21 · Darby

these therefore came to Philip, who was of Bethsaida of Galilee, and they asked him saying, Sir, we desire to see Jesus.

Crowds had just welcomed Jesus into Jerusalem as Israel's King. Then a small group of foreigners at the feast asked a disciple for an introduction. Their small ask turned the Lord's words toward His death. It also raises a question: how could anyone outside Israel come to Him at all?

Who the Greeks were

These visitors were not Jews but Gentiles. That is why they came by way of a disciple.

These Greeks were not Greek-speaking Jews. They were Gentiles — people outside Israel. Their desire to see Jesus is what brings in the third great testimony to the glory of Christ as the Son of Man. The Gentile had no claim on Christ as the Messiah. So these Greeks were right to approach the Lord through the Jewish disciples. The Gentile centurion had done the same earlier, sending his request to the Lord through the Jewish elders.

Modernised from Hamilton SmithOriginal wording

Sought by strangers, refused at home

The contrast with the religious leaders at the same feast is sharp.

The request did not come from the Pharisees or the chief priests. They had plenty of chances to see Him and hear Him at that very feast. No, it was the desire of Greeks (Gentiles) who had come to worship there… It is in itself no small testimony to the glory of His person who was among them. Israel rejected Him, but the despised Gentile came looking for Him. The one refused Him; the other asked for Him. The last is first.

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Why they went through Philip

The way they came pictures the way the nations will one day come.

The Greeks did not approach Jesus directly. They came through Philip and Andrew. In the same way, when He comes in His glory as the King of Israel, the nations will see that God has blessed His people, and they will go up to worship at Jerusalem. Then His House will truly be a house of prayer for all nations.

Modernised from James McBroomOriginal wording

Philip did not answer the question himself. He found someone who would take it straight to the Lord.

But what could Philip do? Were not these Greeks outside the boundary? Would the Lord receive them if he brought them to Him? Philip was a puzzled servant that day, because he did not understand. But he goes and tells Andrew, and in that he was wise. He felt that Andrew would find a way out of the problem. And Andrew did, for he brings him straight to the Lord with the difficulty.

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The answer: a wider title, but through death

We are never told that the Greeks got their meeting. The Lord's answer looked straight past them.

His thoughts turn at once to the hidden meaning of granting such a desire to the Gentiles. It signified His death. Rejected as Israel's Messiah, He would take the wider place of Son of man. As Psalm 8 shows, that title covers a much larger range than the "Anointed" of Psalm 2. But to fill that larger range, He must first die!

Modernised from J. Wilson SmithOriginal wording

The necessity was not a limit on His power but on man's condition.

He Himself was the true grain of wheat that would bear rich fruit. Yet even He could do so only by death and resurrection. This was not, could not be, from any lack of power in Him. It was because of man's condition that it could not righteously be otherwise before God. Only death can meet the evil, or fill the void — and only His death… Living, He must remain alone. Dying, He bears much fruit in the power of His resurrection.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

A small sample of a great harvest

In these few enquirers the Lord saw far more than the men standing in front of Him.

In the Greeks standing before Him, Jesus sees a sample of the gathering in of the Gentiles. The Lord knew well that only one thing could draw the Gentiles: His own cross and His glory in heaven. So He looks through all the scene that lay in between, for He had to accomplish redemption and to go up on high. But from this little sample He connects everything with His glorification, and speaks of it as a present fact.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Where the request is answered today

Ask to see Jesus today, and there is one place to look.

Do you say, "Sir, we wish to see Jesus"? My answer is, Look at the centre cross on Calvary. THIS IS JESUS — the thorn-crowned Nazarene, despised and rejected by men, crucified on a criminal's cross. This is Jesus, and beside Him there is no other.

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Summary

- Outsiders ask. Gentiles had no claim on Israel's Messiah. Yet they asked what Israel's own leaders never asked at that feast.

- Grace makes room. Philip did not know if he could bring such people to Jesus. Andrew took the problem straight to Him, and that was the wise move.

- Death answers. The Lord replied by speaking of the grain of wheat: living, He must remain alone; dying, He bears much fruit.

- The title widens. Rejected as Messiah, He takes the larger place of Son of man — and only under that title do Gentiles come in.

- The harvest begins. In a handful of enquirers He saw a sample of the nations drawn by the cross, which is where anyone still goes to see Jesus.

John 12:22 · Darby

Philip comes and tells Andrew, [and again] Andrew comes and Philip, and they tell Jesus.

A question from foreign worshippers takes a short but telling route. It reaches Philip, then Andrew, and only then Jesus. Why did two disciples have to talk it over first? And what did the Lord make of it?

Who the Greeks were

These men were not Jews from abroad. They were Gentiles — outsiders to Israel — who had come to worship. They chose to approach through a disciple.

The Greeks here are pure Gentiles, not Greek-speaking Jews. Still, they worship the true God as revealed in Israel. They share the hopes that Israel's prophets had stirred up. So they come forward and respectfully use a disciple as go-between to gain a meeting with Him. Going through a Jew was a natural thought for a Gentile who believed the prophets. In that prophecy the Gentile seeking God takes hold of the skirt of the Jew (Zech. 8:23).

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Philip's hesitation

Philip did not carry the message straight to Jesus. One writer links his delay to what he knew of the Lord's mission.

We take it they really wanted to get to know Christ. So they went to Philip, one of the twelve disciples. These Greeks may have known him in his home town. Philip did not tell the Lord at once. He knew of course that Christ's mission was to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, and to them only (Matt. 15:24). He sought out Andrew, his fellow apostle from the same town, and passed on what these Greeks wanted. The two of them together tell Jesus.

Modernised from C. E. StuartOriginal wording

Two different responses

The same request met two different men. One hesitated; the other did not.

Philip seems to be in something of a dilemma. But he goes and tells Andrew his difficulty. Andrew had no difficulty at all, for we read that at once he and Philip go and tell Jesus. We gather that Andrew had some idea of the overflowing grace in Christ Jesus. That grace could and would reach outside and beyond the bounds of the Jewish nation and take in the Greeks.

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Andrew's one line of work

Every time Andrew appears in this Gospel he is doing the same thing, and this verse is the third instance.

Though it is true we do not hear much about Andrew, what we do hear is very lovely. This seems to have been a special line of work with him. The next time we see him is in John 6:8, and there he is bringing "a lad" to the Lord Jesus. Again we find him at the same work in John 12:22, where he is bringing the Greeks to Jesus. Happy work! May the Lord teach every one of us to bring others, one by one, to Himself.

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Why the two went together

Philip did not go in alone, and the verse names Andrew first the second time. One writer explains both.

Philip, cautious as his people were in such matters, brings another man in with himself to approach his Master. And Andrew takes the lead in telling the Lord what they wanted.

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Their shared home town mattered too.

It seemed a strange event. Yet a natural connection gave the occasion to pass it on to Jesus. Philip tells Andrew. He too, with Peter, was from Bethsaida; and they tell Jesus, gaining strength in this way.

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Strangers to the promises

The message reached Jesus at last. But these worshippers stood outside everything God had promised Israel.

The Greeks had come to worship at Jerusalem, but they were strangers to the covenants of promise. It took an entirely new order of things to bring them in. They had no right to the promises; Jesus must die to lay the foundation for this new order.

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A rehearsal of a coming day

One writer sees a picture in the route these men took. They came to a disciple first, and only then to the Lord.

The Greeks did not approach Jesus directly. They came through Philip and Andrew. In the same way, when He comes in His glory as the King of Israel, the nations will realise that God has blessed His people. They will go up to worship at Jerusalem. Then His house will truly be a house of prayer for all nations.

Modernised from James McBroomOriginal wording

Summary

- Outsiders come. Gentiles came to worship. They were strangers to Israel's promises, so they took hold of a disciple to reach Jesus.

- Philip stalls. He knows Christ came to Israel's lost sheep, so he holds back and looks for help.

- Andrew moves. He grasps that grace overflows Israel's borders. Every time we meet him, he is bringing someone to Jesus.

- Together they tell. Two men from the same town go in as one. They gain strength that way, and Andrew takes the lead.

- Death opens the door. These men had no claim on the promises. Jesus must die to lay the foundation for a new order of blessing.

John 12:23 · Darby

But Jesus answered them saying, The hour is come that the Son of man should be glorified.

Greeks who had come to worship ask to see Jesus, and instead of meeting them He announces that His hour has come. His answer looks straight past their request to a glory that runs through His death.

The Request Behind the Answer

These Greeks had no share in the promises God gave Israel. One writer links their arrival to why Jesus speaks of death:

They came to worship at Jerusalem, but they were strangers to the covenants of promise. God had to bring in a whole new order of things to give them a place in it. They had no right to the promises. Jesus must die to lay the foundation for this new order of things. Here Jesus is not the promised Messiah. He is the second Man, head of all things God created — all things He Himself created. But He must win them by redemption, and above all His co-heirs.

Modernised from J. N. DarbyOriginal wording

Son of Man, Not Israel's Messiah

He does not call Himself the Christ here. The title He picks reaches far beyond Israel:

Israel rejected Him as Messiah, so He would take the wider place of Son of man. As Psalm 8 shows, that title covers a much larger range than the "Anointed" of Psalm 2. But to fill that larger range, He must first die!

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Another writer shows how far that place reaches:

As Son of man, all peoples, nations and languages will serve Him, in a kingdom that will never be destroyed (Dan. 7:14).

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Glory Announced Before It Arrives

The cross and the ascension still lay ahead. Yet He speaks as if the hour had already struck. One writer reads these Greeks, who were not Jews, as the signal:

He was going to the cross and to death. Yet He declares that the hour had come for Him to be glorified. How could that be? If you read it in a flat, literal way, I think you lose the force of the passage. Jesus sees in the Greeks before Him a sample of the gathering in of the Gentiles. He knew that the only thing that would draw the Gentiles was His own cross and His glory in heaven. So He looks right through the whole scene in front of Him, because He had to complete redemption and go up on high. But from this small sample He connects everything with His glorification, and speaks of it as a present fact.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Cross or Kingdom

Commentators differ on what the hour of glorifying points to. Some take it as the far-off day when He will rule over all, brought to mind by the Greeks asking for Him:

When these Greeks asked to see Jesus, it became to Him the promise of the day of His glory. On that day all kings will fall down before Him and all nations will serve Him. God will give Him the nations as His inheritance, and the ends of the earth as His possession.

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Others argue from the timing that the kingdom cannot be meant here, since that glory was not yet due:

The time for this glory had not yet come. So when the Lord says, "The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified," He has in view not the kingdom but the Cross. There the Son of Man is glorified by glorifying the Father.

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Both readings meet at the same place. One writer puts it simply:

His death would be the foundation of all the glory in days to come.

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One Hour Above All Others

One writer hears sorrow and glory sounding together in the same words:

Mixed in with the sorrow we find hints of brighter things — "The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified." For sorrow, joy and glory alike, that was "the hour." There has never been another hour like it, and there never can be.

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The Servant's Path

What He says next turns the principle onto His followers, and one writer makes the demand concrete:

We must follow Him in this: "Whoever loves his life loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. If anyone serves me, he must follow me." That is a very important word. If you want to serve Christ, you must follow Him. You cannot do a certain amount of service on your own, apart from Him. If I serve Him, I must follow Him where He is.

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Summary

- Occasion. Greeks asking to see Jesus set off this answer. They had no claim on Israel's promises, so Jesus had to lay a new foundation.

- Title. He names Himself Son of man, a place wider than Israel's Messiah, reaching to all nations.

- Cost. He could take that wider place only through death. He had to die to lay the foundation.

- Certainty. He speaks of the glory as present because He looks past the cross to the harvest the Greeks foreshadowed.

- Call. Serving Christ means following Him. There is no independent service.

John 12:24 · Darby

Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except the grain of wheat falling into the ground die, it abides alone; but if it die, it bears much fruit.

Commentary for this verse has not been generated yet.

John 12:25 · Darby

He that loves his life shall lose it, and he that hates his life in this world shall keep it to life eternal.

Jesus has just spoken of the grain of wheat that falls into the ground and dies. Now He makes that a rule for anyone who follows Him — and the words sound harsh, until you see which "life" He means.

Which life He means

Everything turns on one word. In the first half of the verse, "life" is not the word used for eternal life at the end:

The word translated "life" here is the word usually translated "soul." It refers to that "soul life" which marks man in his natural fallen condition. The soul is not the spirit. The spirit is the higher part of man, able to put him in intelligent touch with God. The soul is the seat of our natural desires and longings. And "soul life" is that life of enjoyment of all the things that naturally appeal to us.

Modernised from F. B. HoleOriginal wording

Why loving it loses it

Why does holding on lose it? The break runs deeper than the shortness of life — and it is the same break that made Christ's death necessary.

There was no link between the natural life of man and God. If in the man Christ Jesus there was a life in entire harmony with God, He must lay it down because of this condition of man. Being of God, He could not remain in connection with man. Man would not have it… But if anyone loved his life of this world, he lost it, for it was not in connection with God. If anyone by grace hated it, he would have it in the new and eternal state. To hate it is to separate yourself in heart from this principle of alienation from God, and to give your life to Him.

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The strength of "hate"

"Hate" is strong on purpose. It sets a test, and Christ and the Jewish leaders answered it in opposite ways.

Christ was perfectly willing to give up His life in this world in view of infinitely greater blessing. The Jewish leaders were not: they loved their own lives, but would only lose them. Here is a test of the reality of faith. The expression "hates his life" is intended to be strong, in contrast to loving one's life. It is a question of which life is of vital importance.

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How such hatred is produced

Hatred of this kind is not achieved by grim effort. It comes from something else becoming more attractive, as it did for Paul when he listed his advantages and wrote them off.

He who turns his back on the soul-life of this world is going to keep life to life eternal. He turns his back on it because he is identified with the rejected Christ and His death. Here the word for "life" changes, for "life eternal" is a far higher thing. Philippians 3 illustrates what this means. There Paul lists all his natural advantages and then shows how he counted them loss for Christ. Christ became so infinitely attractive to him that he hated all else in comparison with Him.

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What is kept, and when

The keeping points forward to eternal life. But the gain starts now, not only later.

The Lord contrasts the two spheres of life: the "life in this world" and the life of joy and blessing which is called "eternal life"… To love the life here is to cling to a life that we must lose. We even lose it while chasing it. To hate the life in this world, in view of eternal life, is to enter into the enjoyment of eternal life even now.

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A saying He would not let go

Jesus said this more often than anything else on record.

If we love it, we shall only lose it. Seeing it in its true light, we learn to hate it, and by that we keep life — the only life worth having — to life eternal. This is a hard saying for us, but extremely important. We can see this, because Jesus spoke words of similar meaning on three other occasions. The four Gospels record these four sayings six times. No other saying of our Lord is repeated for us like this.

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Summary

- Two lives. The life you can lose is the soul-life of natural desires. The life you keep is eternal life — a different word, and a far higher thing.

- Two loves. Loving the first loses it, because that life has no link with God. Hating it means separating from it in heart and giving it to Him.

- Two examples. The leaders loved their lives and lost them. Christ gave His up for far greater blessing. Which one you copy tests whether your faith is real.

- Two timings. What you keep is kept "for eternal life" — full only later, yet enjoyed now by the one who lets go.

- One refrain. Jesus said this on four occasions, and the Gospels record it six times. No other saying of His is repeated like it.

John 12:26 · Darby

If any one serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there also shall be *my* servant. [And] if any one serve me, him shall the Father honour.

The Lord had just spoken of His own death. His words about serving follow straight on, so the promises here — a place with Him, and honour from the Father — belong to a path that runs through death.

Service Means Following

The writers quote an older wording: "let him follow me" where the ESV has "he must follow me." The Lord defines service by a person, not a list of tasks:

"If anyone serves me," says the Lord, "let him follow me." Notice, He does not say, "let him do this for me, or do that," but "let him follow me." The most pleasing service we can give the Lord is to wait on Him quietly so that we may know His will, and to follow Him faithfully, listening to the voice of His word. Some He may lead into more public paths of service, others into more private ones. But our most acceptable service is to follow His word closely, while looking by faith to Himself.

Modernised from Andrew MillerOriginal wording

The path itself tests the servant, not just the work:

We find everything in "If anyone serves Me, let him follow Me." This marks out the path and supplies the power by which alone any of us can take it. The path is His own path. The power to make it ours lies in the hold that that twice-repeated "Me" has gained in our hearts. We shall see, too, that the path is the test — not of the service only, but of the servant. These are words that may arrest us in this day of general activity. A day of solemn examination is coming. Then the question will not be how much has passed for service, but what kind it was.

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The Road He Points To

Following Him has a set direction, and it is not upward in this world:

The Lord adds a most important principle of conduct to what He has just said: "If anyone serves me, let him follow me." We must follow Him through death — in principle, death to sin and to the world. But the consequence of such a path is simple: where the Saviour is, there shall His servant be. Such a person follows Him through death into the heavenly glory where He has entered.

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This has an edge for anyone who measures life by success:

Let us not profess to enjoy the benefits which His cross secures, while we refuse the rejection which that cross involves. We may be sure that the road to the kingdom is not lit by the sunshine of this world's favour, nor strewn with the roses of its prosperity. If a Christian is advancing in the world, he has much reason to suspect that he is not walking in company with Christ. … The company of Christ lets me into heaven and casts me out of earth. To claim the first while I know nothing of the second proves there is something wrong.

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A Place With Him

The Lord encourages hearts that flinch from such a road:

By nature we shrink from death. The Lord knows this as we could never know it, and in His tender grace He has supplied the power and the encouragement to walk this path of life. … First He holds Himself before our hearts as the One who has passed through death into His present place of exaltation and glory. And He invites us to follow Him. And to bring us under all the attractions of His grace and love, He pledges His sure and faithful word that where He is, there shall also His servant be.

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Honour From the Father

The last clause brings in the Father:

"If anyone serves me, him will my Father honour." If anyone serves Christ, he comes under the special eye and notice of the Father; when He sees anyone following Christ, the preciousness of that Son of His love casts its light upon them.

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Weigh these promises against what a follower gives up:

The servant with his Master! What honour! "Him will the Father honour." Put reputation among men, wealth, honours and rank on earth all in one scale. Put the promises made here in the other. This second scale will far outweigh the first. Honours and ruling power here may seem valuable, and worth grasping at. Yet all of that must fade away in time. But to be with Christ on high, and to be honoured by the Father — these favours last for ever, and can never pass away.

Modernised from C. E. StuartOriginal wording

Summary

- Follow, not perform. The Lord does not say, do this or that for Me. He says, follow Me. The service He accepts is waiting on His will and keeping to His word.

- The servant is tested. The path tests the servant, not just the service. On the day of examination, the question is the kind of service, not the amount.

- The path is death. Following Him means death to sin and to the world. Enjoying what His cross secures while refusing the rejection it brings shows something is wrong.

- The place is with Him. He passed through death into glory, and He pledges that where He is, His servant will be.

- The honour is the Father's. The one who follows Christ comes under the Father's eye, lit by the preciousness of His Son. That honour is everlasting, while earthly honours fade.

John 12:27 · Darby

Now is my soul troubled, and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour. But on account of this have I come to this hour.

Some Greeks had just asked to see Jesus, and He answered by speaking of a grain of wheat that must fall into the ground and die. His trouble follows at once, and it raises a hard question: is "Father, save me from this hour" a prayer He makes, or one He refuses?

What Brought On the Trouble

The arrival of these Gentiles — non-Jewish visitors — opened up before Him glory as Son of Man, reached only by way of death.

The coming of the Gentiles had opened out before Him a scene: the rejected Christ passing into the wider glory of the Son of Man. But that meant the grain of wheat must fall into the ground and die. This brings before His soul the true and necessary path of His glory — death, and all that death meant to His soul. And He looks for deliverance. He could not wish for the forsaking of God and the cup of death He had to drink. Nor could He fail to fear them. He was heard because of His godly fear. That was truth, and true devotion to God, as He faced what His soul had to pass through.

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What the Hour Held

The weight was not simply dying. It was death as God's judgment, and the forsaking that came with it.

The Lord has urged us to take the path of death to this world, leading to life and honour. But before the believer can take this path, Christ had to face death as the judgment of God against sin. He knows the solemn weight of being forsaken by God at the cross. So He has to say, "Now is my soul troubled." Even so, will He say, "Father, save Me from this hour"? Was it not for this very cause — to be forsaken so that His people might never be forsaken — that He had come to this hour?

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Proof of His True Manhood

Some fear that a troubled soul makes Him less. The opposite is true: this is exactly what a perfect man would feel here, and both halves of the verse belong together.

The reality of His manhood, and the glory of His Godhead, in no way hindered His sorrow. His being Who and what He was, and perfect in everything, only gave Him infinite capacity to feel and fathom what He endured. He would not have been perfect man if His soul had not been troubled, so that He felt, "What am I to say?" He would not have been Son of God as man if He had not prayed, in that trouble of soul, "Father, save Me from this hour." He would just as surely not have been, if He had not gone on to say, "But for this purpose I have come to this hour," crowned with, "Father, glorify Your name."

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Asked, or Refused?

Commentators differ here. Darby and Kelly read the words as a real prayer that was heard. Another writer reads them as a plea He raises only to set aside.

Yet His rejection by man was not even a shadow of the sorrow none could share — His being forsaken by God. No, He would not say, "Father, save me from this hour," while still letting us know that His soul was troubled. "Father, glorify Your name," spoken in the shadow of the cross, is simply the completion of the thought formed in the brightness of the eternal glory — "I come… I delight to do Your will, O my God."

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Felt Here, Borne at Calvary

What He says here He would face again in the garden, and then endure in fact.

It is worth remembering that Gethsemane still lay ahead of the Lord at this time… Death, as the judgment of God, the thing that lay upon us, was before Him there. He went through it in anticipation in Gethsemane. He went through it in fact, in all its dread reality, in the dark hour of Calvary.

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Where the Trouble Lands

The trouble does not have the last word. Even here, one thing mattered to Him more than the cost.

He knew full well what the dreadful hour of the cross would mean to His holy soul. It meant sufferings beyond all creature knowledge. It meant all that the evil heart of man, driven by the power of Satan, could devise, and all that the powers of darkness could gather to attack Him. It meant the wrath and judgment of a holy God against sin, when He would be made sin and bear our sins. Looking ahead to all this was awful, and the drinking of the cup of wrath would be awful too. Yet one thing mattered to Him above everything else: the glory of the Father's Name.

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Summary

- The hour — the Greeks' arrival opened up glory as Son of Man. The way there ran through the grain of wheat falling into the ground to die.

- The trouble — not dying as such, but death as God's judgment, and the forsaking that came with it.

- The manhood — a troubled soul does not make Him less. Only a real man would feel it, and only He could fathom it.

- The choice — commentators differ: is the plea prayed, or raised only to be set aside? Either way the verse turns on one hinge: He came for this hour.

- The end — the trouble ends not in escape but in "Father, glorify Your name." That was the one thing worth more to Him than the cost.

John 12:28 · Darby

Father, glorify thy name. There came therefore a voice out of heaven, I both have glorified and will glorify [it] again.

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John 12:29 · Darby

The crowd therefore, which stood [there] and heard [it], said that it had thundered. Others said, An angel has spoken to him.

The Father has just answered His Son's prayer out loud from heaven. Everyone hears the sound, but it splits the crowd into two parties, and neither guess comes near the truth.

What the voice was

This was the Father's public answer. It came at the close of the Son's public ministry, matching the voice that had opened it.

The closing testimony of the Son begins with the words, "This voice has come for your sake, not mine." When the Son was about to begin His public testimony, the Father's voice had proclaimed His pleasure in Him. Now, as that testimony is about to close, the Father speaks again. But the Jews had no ear to hear or understand the Father's voice. They had refused the Son's testimony to the Father, and they could not discern the Father's testimony to the Son.

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Two guesses, neither the truth

The crowd was not used to hearing heaven speak, so they reached for a natural explanation. One writer notes that a few came nearer the mark than the rest, and still missed it.

Meanwhile this voice came as His witness to the crowd. He did not need it Himself, since He walked in a communion with God that was never broken. Sadly, for them a voice from heaven was a strange and, for most, an unintelligible sound. The crowd said, "It thundered." A few, who still did not clearly recognise it, said, "An angel has spoken to Him."

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Commentators differ over the two answers. One refuses to explain the split at all, and treats both guesses as wide of the mark:

As to the question why some said the voice from heaven was thunder, others the speaking of an angel to the Lord, it seems pointless to look for an answer. It was merely guesswork on the part of the crowd, who all fell short of the truth. Unbelief of Him can weaken or get rid of all testimony until He comes in judgment.

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What they should have recognised

Their problem was not their hearing but their ignorance of God. The Son had just prayed, and heaven had just answered. The link should have been obvious.

There was no knowledge of the Father, no real recognition of God. Otherwise they would have seen the hand of God in such an answer to such a prayer. They saw the wonder in answer to "Father, glorify Your name," and they said, "An angel spoke," or, "It thundered." If God gave His thunder, then it was God, the Highest, who answered the words "Father, glorify Your name."

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The voice was a kindness to them

The next verse gives the reason for the voice, and it is not the reason the crowd assumed. Jesus needed no sound from heaven; they did.

The crowd did not know what to think of the voice they had heard. Some said it was a clap of thunder, others that an angel had spoken to Him. Jesus answers, "This voice has come for your sake, not mine." The Father's voice was in His heart. The people needed something their senses could take in, and grace gave it to them.

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The contrast between the Son and the crowd is the point. He lived in unbroken fellowship with the Father, so a public sign added nothing to Him.

The Father had given a public witness that the Son was the One through Whom He was glorifying His Name. The people, unused to voices from heaven, speculated about this public witness. Some said it was thunder, others the voice of an angel. The Lord plainly tells them that it was for their sakes: He Himself, always walking in communion with the Father, needed no such public witness.

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Hearing a sound without hearing the words

Scripture records three times when people on earth heard the Father's voice. The hearers did not all gain the same from it.

On three distinct occasions others heard the Father's voice: at His baptism by John (Matthew 3:17); at His transfiguration (Matthew 17:5); and in answer to His prayer, "Father, glorify Your name" (John 12:28). On the first occasion John the Baptist heard it. On the second, Peter, James and John had the privilege of listening to it. On the third, the crowd heard a sound, but it was clear they did not understand what was said.

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The same gap between sound and meaning shows up elsewhere. One commentator explains it from the men who travelled with Saul of Tarsus at his conversion:

Comparing this with Acts 9:7, we gather that the men heard the voice. Yet it could also be said that they did not hear the voice, because it conveyed nothing they could understand.

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Summary

- Prayer. The Son prayed, "Father, glorify Your name." The Father answered out loud at the close of His ministry — the third time people on earth heard that voice.

- Grace. The voice came for the crowd, not for Jesus. He lived in unbroken communion with the Father and needed no sign, so the sound was pure kindness to them.

- Guesswork. Most said thunder and a few said an angel. Both guesses fell short of the truth.

- Deafness. The failure lay in their hearts, not their ears. They had refused the Son's witness to the Father, so they missed the Father's witness to the Son.

- Warning. Unbelief can weaken or get rid of any testimony, however clear, until Christ comes in judgment.

John 12:30 · Darby

Jesus answered and said, Not on my account has this voice come, but on yours.

Jesus had just prayed, "Father, glorify your name," and a voice answered out of heaven. The crowd standing there could only argue about what they had heard. His reply sorts out the scene. The voice was never for Him. It came for the very people who could not tell what it was.

A witness He did not need

The Father answered out loud, in front of everyone, and the crowd could not agree on what it was:

The Father had given a public witness that the Son was the One through Whom He was glorifying His Name. The people, unused to voices from heaven, speculated about this public witness. Some said it was thunder, others the voice of an angel. The Lord plainly tells them that it was for their sakes: He Himself, walking always in communion with the Father, needed no such public witness.

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Heard, but not recognised

Both explanations missed what had happened. Jesus had prayed, heaven had answered, and that link alone should have told them who spoke:

They did not know the Father. They did not truly recognise God. Otherwise they would have seen the hand of God in such an answer to such a prayer. They saw the wonder in answer to "Father, glorify your name," and they said, "An angel spoke," or, "It thundered." If God gave His thunder, then it was God, even the Highest, who answered the words, "Father, glorify your name." So the Lord, the Son of Man, could well say that this voice had not come for His sake. He needed no such evidence. It came "for your sake." They thought it was for His own.

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Grace toward people who would not believe

Why some heard thunder and others an angel is not explained. Even so, the Lord turned the moment toward them:

Why did some say the voice from heaven was thunder, while others said an angel had spoken to the Lord? It seems pointless to look for an answer. It was only guesswork by the crowd, and all of them fell short of the truth. Unbelief of Him can weaken or get rid of all testimony until He comes in judgment. Yet it was truly in grace toward them, for Jesus answered, "This voice has come for your sake, not mine."

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The grace is sharper still when you look at what these same hearers did next:

The voice was plain and the proof was clear. The Lord says that this voice did not come for His sake, since He knew the truth of these words perfectly. It came for the people. Yet in only a few brief days they joined in crying out for His crucifixion!

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The Father's voice framing the Son's ministry

This was not the first time heaven had spoken over Jesus:

The closing testimony of the Son begins with the words, "This voice has come for your sake, not mine." When the Son was about to begin His public testimony, the Father's voice declared His pleasure in Him. Now, as that testimony is about to close, the Father speaks again. But the Jews had no ear to hear the Father's voice or to understand it. They had refused the Son's testimony to the Father, and they could not discern the Father's testimony to the Son.

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What the voice was preparing them to hear

From heaven's answer the Lord moves straight to the cross and what it would settle:

The Lord then declared, "This voice has come for your sake, not mine." Then He looked ahead: "Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out. And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself." He said this to show by what kind of death he was going to die (31-33). Soon the crowd would be shouting for His death. They wanted Him crucified as a blasphemer against God and a traitor to Caesar. The ruler of this world led men to crucify Him. Once that crime was done, he might seem to have won a total victory. Could that really be the case? Quite the reverse. Leading the world to crucify Christ would bring down certain and final judgment on the world. He led the world at the cross as its prince, yet he will be cast out all the same.

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Summary

- Not for Him. The Son lived in unbroken communion with His Father and needed no audible proof. Heaven aimed the voice past Him, at the crowd.

- Not received. Thunder or an angel — every guess fell short. Unbelief can explain away any testimony.

- Still grace. The Lord's correction was kindness to people who would shout for His crucifixion within days.

- Twice spoken. Heaven's voice opened His public testimony, and now it closes it. The same ears that refused the Son missed the Father.

- Pointing to the cross. The voice led straight to the cross. There the world is judged, its ruler cast out, and the lifted-up Christ draws all to Himself.

John 12:31 · Darby

Now is [the] judgment of this world; now shall the prince of this world be cast out

Days before the cross, Jesus announced what His death would settle: the world's judgment, and the fall of its ruler. Two questions follow: what did that judgment mean, and why does its ruler still seem so active?

The verdict passed at the cross

Nothing dramatic happened in the sky when Jesus died. One writer points to what the moment put on display:

When Christ died, no lightning flashed and nothing was destroyed. Yet the full truth about the world came out then. Its judgment was proved, though not carried out. The world showed what it really was by putting the Lord out of it.

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The gap between a sentence and its carrying out explains the delay we now live in:

A court passes sentence on a murderer days or weeks before it is carried out. So in this verse you see the judgment was a present thing: the casting out was a future thing. Between the verdict and its carrying out stands this present day of grace. The word "now" covers it, as in 2 Corinthians 6:2. In His patience God delays carrying out the judgment.

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What "this world" means

The word "world" here points to something people built:

John uses the word "world" for the moral condition of the vast organisation that man built for himself after he was driven out of the Garden of Eden. With his skill and his learning, man slowly formed a great system to run all the affairs of this life without God's help and without recognising Him. Sinful indulgence and selfish ease became the main parts of man's world. When the Son of God came into it, men despised Him, hated Him, and crucified Him.

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Why Satan is called its prince

Older translations call this ruler "the prince of this world." Many assume the cross ended his rule; one writer argues the opposite:

It is strange how many people imagine that the cross put an end to Satan's rule. The opposite is true. The cross was the one great proof, and there never was such a proof before, that Satan is the prince and god of this world. Until Christ had been rejected, Satan was never called the prince of this world. Before that, the LORD was on the earth, and His glory was in the temple. When the Lord comes again, He will be the Prince of the world; but till He comes again, Satan is that prince.

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"Cast out" — broken now, expelled later

The same writer explains why the Lord could speak of it as settled while using a future tense:

By death He has destroyed the one who has the power of death — that is, annulled his power. Though the verse says "will be," his power is now destroyed. The sentence is passed, but not carried out. It is the cross that is referred to. The world is a judged world. I fully admit that he is not cast into the bottomless pit until Christ comes again. But through Christ's death Satan's power is annulled. To faith his power is annulled now.

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Commentators differ over how much has already changed in fact. Some press that a later title given to Satan settles the question:

Does He not also say, when predicting the effect of His cross, "Now shall the prince of this world be cast out"? Has he not, then, been cast out of his kingdom? The Lord only predicts the certain effect of the cross, and the "now" simply declares it to be the effect. , going beyond even that which the Lord uses, is decisive: he calls the devil — long after the cross — "the god of this world."

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What this settles for people today

If the verdict is already in, the world is not waiting for a better outcome:

That solemn event of the cross is the judgment of this world. The world is therefore no longer under probation, but under sentence of judgment. The cross has ended the world's trial. There the world was shown to be guilty of a crime. By the cross of Christ the strong man, Satan, has been bound. The blessed Lord triumphed over him in the very thing by which Satan meant to destroy Christ.

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For those who face the world's hatred, He leaves a plain assurance:

He tells us that the world which will hate and persecute us stands judged. The great prince who governs and guides its affairs is deposed. His power is already broken and made useless, and he himself is doomed to everlasting punishment.

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Summary

- Verdict. The cross exposed what the world is; its judgment was proved there, though not carried out.

- Reprieve. Between the verdict and the execution stands this present day of grace, in which God delays.

- Ruler. Satan was never called prince of this world until Christ was rejected; the title dates from that hour.

- Deposed. Christ's death annulled his power. Faith counts that real now, though his final removal waits for Christ's return.

- Choice. The world is no longer on trial but under sentence, so safety lies only with the One it condemned.

John 12:32 · Darby

and I, if I be lifted up out of the earth, will draw all to me.

Some Greeks had just asked to see Jesus. His answer speaks of a death, a magnet, and a reach far wider than Israel — and it raises a question commentators still weigh: when is "all" drawn?

The Death He Meant

The phrase points to how He would die. It rules out other kinds of execution:

The Lord described the way He would die as being lifted up out of the earth. Death by stoning would not have matched this. John 3:14; John 8:28; John 12:32. We also read that He was made a curse for us; for "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree." Galatians 3:13; Deuteronomy 21:23. So the blessed Lord, in saving rebellious man, went down to the very lowest form of death.

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The Rejected Christ

The words "from the earth" matter. One writer ties them to rejection, and to the foundation of Christianity itself:

In His dying for us the foundation of Christianity was laid. He was "lifted up," not crucified on the earth, as He says, "Lifted up from the earth." He had to be a completely rejected Christ, rejected even to death. Otherwise there could be no point of attraction for men.

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Judgment and Drawing in the Same Breath

Verse 31 condemns the world and casts out its prince. Verse 32 opens the way to all. Both meet at the cross:

Note the completeness of verses 31 and 32 of John 12. The death of Christ judges the world, and Satan (shown to be its prince) is cast out. But then, "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself." See how the cross shows both things at once! It shows the complete condemnation of the world, and with it the overthrow of Satan. It also shows grace — grace in the attractive object, and in its own effective work towards all.

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Why the Word Is "All"

The word "all" covers two groups, and one of them stood outside Israel:

His death opened up the way to glory "above," in the Father's house. It opened it not to Jews only, but to Gentiles. The words "all" and "whoever" include both. The "other sheep" were Gentiles (John 10:14-16).

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Does "All" Mean Everyone?

Here commentators differ. Some read "all" (older translations: "all men") as every kind of person, drawn now:

How blessed to know that He is God's centre of attraction, at the present time, for all men, as we read in verse 32... This means "all men without distinction," but not "all men without exception." Not all men have been drawn to Him. It is in keeping with the character of John's Gospel, which takes in the whole world in its scope, and not just the Jews.

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Others hold that the sentence looks past this age to a public, worldwide submission:

The key to this lies in the incident of the Greeks who wanted to see Jesus. They can be taken as representatives of all the families, peoples, and languages that will one day bow the knee to Jesus. So when the Lord speaks of drawing all men to Him after being lifted up, we cannot doubt what He means. He points to what will happen in this world, in the world to come, the thousand years, when everyone will confess His supremacy and authority... in virtue of His death and exaltation, all will be drawn, either by His attractions or His power, in subjection to His feet.

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The Power That Draws

So what does the drawing? A death — and a force nothing can resist:

The cross of Christ is the divine necessity of divine light and love. Jesus crucified will always attract people to God. As long as the world lasts, this marvel will stand: the story of the sufferings and the death of Jesus draws men from the glory and the glitter of the world. It draws them from its fame and its shame, right to God Himself... Jesus crucified is the sacrifice for sin and the friend of sinners. He is the mighty magnet God uses to draw us to His heart of love. Christ crucified is the irresistible force that no power of Satan or of the world can withstand.

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Where the Drawing Leads

The attraction is a Man lifted off the earth. That changes where your heart lives:

Three times in the Gospel of John the Lord speaks of being lifted up. Only in John 12 do those significant words follow: "will draw all people to myself." It is lifted up "from the earth." He has left the earth, and we are to leave the earth in our affections as He attracts us.

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Summary

- Lifted — the phrase names crucifixion. Stoning could not fit it, and hanging on a tree placed Him under the curse.

- Rejected — "from the earth" means a Christ cast out. Only a Christ rejected to death is a point of attraction.

- Judged — one cross condemns the world and casts out its prince. The same cross draws all people.

- All — the word reaches past Israel. "All" and "whoever" cover Jew and Gentile alike. Commentators differ on the timing: drawing now, or full submission when He reigns.

- Drawn — the crucified Christ is the magnet no power can resist. He has left the earth, so hearts drawn to Him leave it too.

John 12:33 · Darby

But this he said signifying by what death he was about to die.

John stops to explain what the Lord had just said. "Lifted up" could sound like a promise of glory. John says it meant a cross. So why did the manner of His death matter so much?

Not only that He would die, but how

Other men of God died in other ways. The manner of the Lord's death was fixed, and it took both Jewish and Gentile hands.

The Jews might stone Stephen in an outburst of religious fury. Herod might kill James with the sword. But the Son of man had to be condemned by the Jewish chief priests and scribes, and crucified by the Gentiles. All mankind had to prove its guilt to the last degree.

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Crucifixion — the death of deepest shame

Crucifixion was the Roman penalty, yet the hatred behind it was Jewish. The method was meant to end Him. It did the opposite.

In mentioning this He signified crucifixion as the manner of His death. Now this was the Roman way of executing the death sentence, but seeing that all the animosity against Him was in the breast of the Jew, it signified that He would die a death of utmost shame, repudiated by both Jew and Gentile. He was lifted up from the earth in order that He might be contemptuously dismissed — the extinguisher dropped, so to speak, upon His cause and His Name. And the result to be attained is precisely the opposite. He who once was crucified is to be the universal and everlasting Object of attraction!

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"From the earth" — outside the world, not yet in heaven

The Lord said He would be lifted up from the earth. One writer draws out the strange position that puts Him in.

He is no longer of this world at all, nor in heaven either. Here is a Saviour rejected, suffering, dying, who has left the world for ever — a Saviour shamefully rejected, driven away, cast out by the world. He is no longer on the earth, and not yet in heaven. He is exposed to the gaze of men, lifted up from the earth, alone between the two with God, like the altar that was neither in the camp nor in the tabernacle. He is the refuge that draws those who would flee the world that has rejected Him. He opens for them the way into heaven.

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Man lifted Him up — God lifted Him higher

Men raised Him from the earth to be rid of Him. God answered with a lifting up of His own.

Our attention is therefore called to the fact that He was cast out of this world, lifted up from the earth, and crucified on that shameful cross. But we behold in this God's triumph over man's sin, and the Lord's own victory over death, the grave, and Satan's power. Man lifted Him up from the earth, as unworthy to live on it any longer. To add to the shame of His death, they crucified Him between two thieves. But God stepped in. After His burial, God lifted Him up higher still — to the highest place in the universe, to His own right hand.

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One word for lifting up and for exaltation

Commentators differ on how far the phrase reaches. John ties it to His death. But the word for lifting up is also the word for being exalted, and one writer asks whether both were meant.

The word for lifting up and being exalted is the same. We are plainly told that the Lord used it to show by what kind of death He was going to die. It is still true that His exaltation comes by His death and follows from it, and that it is the exalted Christ who will draw all men to Himself. So may it be that we are meant to include His exaltation in His being lifted up?

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Why the crowd was baffled

The crowd could not fit a dying Messiah into what they had been taught. Their difficulty came from a partial reading of their own Scriptures.

"We have heard," they said, "out of the law, that the Christ abides for ever: and how do You say, The Son of Man must be lifted up? Who is this Son of Man?" It was a difficulty they had no answer to. True, the Christ will abide for ever (Ps. 72:15-17; Isa. 9:7; Ezek. 37:25; Dan. 7:14). But that would be in resurrection, when He reigns in power. His humiliation and death were foretold just as clearly, and they had not grasped that.

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Summary

- Signified — John fixes the meaning. The "lifting up" was not honour but a cross, the death that threw Him out of the world.

- Shame — the death itself was shame by design. Jew and Gentile joined to throw Him out.

- Between — off the earth, not yet in heaven, He hung alone with God. There He became the refuge for all who flee the world that cast Him out.

- Reversed — man raised Him up as unfit to live; God raised Him higher still, to His own right hand.

- Attraction — the cross meant to blot out His Name made Him the One who draws all men. The crowd missed it. They held the promises of His reign and left out the prophecies of His death.

John 12:34 · Darby

The crowd answered him, We have heard out of the law that the Christ abides for ever; and how sayest thou that the Son of man must be lifted up? Who *is* this, the Son of man?

The crowd has just heard Jesus speak of being "lifted up from the earth." They answer with Scripture in hand: the Christ, they say, stays forever. Their objection holds a real puzzle and a real blindness. How can a Messiah who never ends be a Messiah who dies? And who is this "Son of Man"?

The Scripture they quoted was right

Their starting point was not the mistake. The problem was what they left out of the picture.

It was a difficulty they had no solution for. True, the Christ will remain forever (Ps. 72:15-17; Isa. 9:7; Ezek. 37:25; Dan. 7:14). That, however, would be in resurrection, and when reigning in power. His humiliation and death, equally predicted, they had not grasped. That is where their difficulty came from.

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The half of Scripture they had never read

A living Messiah gathering Israel was the picture they held. The other picture was in their own Scriptures, but no one looked for it there.

Christ on the cross is a very different sight from Christ reigning over His people in grace and lasting forever. Yet they should have read this in the law too, for it is there, though dimly. But grace shows Him plainly, lifted up like this — the attractive centre for all, Gentile or Jew, despite their sins, which He was to bear in His own body. A suffering Son of Man was never part of Jewish faith, and still is not, though their own Scriptures do reveal Him.

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Why the title itself confused them

Their second question — who this Son of Man is — was a real one, not a debating trick.

From this passage we learn that the title was not familiar to the Jews, and that it was not used for "Messiah."

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A crucified Messiah looked like a wasted life

Picture the claim from their side.

To be lifted up would, in their view of things, be a shameful close to a promising career. Who would follow or put any confidence in one who had been put to the shame of crucifixion? Surely the name of the One cut off from the land of the living by a criminal's death would perish forever. Who would speak of His generation?

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Not only a puzzle in the head

Something deeper than confusion is at work here. It explains why Jesus gives no direct reply.

The moral disease that clings to man is the very thing that makes the remedy so distasteful. Above all, the cross is utterly an offence... But the Lord does not answer them directly. Their state of heart is not reached by the formal answer to a question. He simply presses on them how quickly the opportunity they now had was passing. They would soon lose the light, unless they used it and made it their own.

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Kelly traces the same failure to its root:

Blinded by self and Satan, the Jews saw no beauty in Him. He was a Saviour as well as King, and He could not, would not, reign while His people needed saving from their sins. They were wrong, not only in their thinking, but morally... a Messiah lifted up from the earth was to them an unsolvable riddle and a deadly stumbling block... Why did they look for His glory without His sorrows and His death? Because they had no real sense of their sins, or of God's holy majesty; because they instinctively turned away from what is most humbling to man.

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What the cross ended, and what it opened

Their instinct was not wholly wrong. The cross did close down the hopes they were holding, and opened better ones.

The Jew always expected that the Messiah, when He came, would bring in something lasting as well as blessed... But the cross seemed to put an end to all such hopes. And in fact it did, as far as any present earthly realisation went. But through the overflowing grace of God it still became the doorway to heavenly blessings — and for that very reason those blessings were far more real and permanent.

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The question gets answered

"Who is this Son of Man?" is not left hanging forever. The answer comes — but for unbelief it comes too late.

As Son of Man He was to be "lifted up" as one under man's judgment. Soon we will hear the people saying, "How can you say that the Son of Man must be lifted up? Who is this Son of Man?" Well, in the coming day they will know who He is, to their unrecoverable ruin!

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Summary

- Half a Bible. They quoted the truth that the Christ endures, and stopped there. They never read the sufferings written in the same Scriptures.

- Half a Christ. They wanted a Messiah to reign, not a Saviour to die. Yet their sins were what made the dying necessary.

- Half a hearing. The title "Son of Man" was strange to them and never used of the Messiah, so His own words slid past them.

- A whole diagnosis. The block was moral, not just mental. That is why Jesus pointed them to the light instead of answering their doctrine question.

- A whole answer. The cross ended their earthly hopes and opened heavenly, more lasting ones. One day everyone who asks will learn who this Son of Man is.

John 12:35 · Darby

Jesus therefore said to them, Yet a little while is the light amongst you. Walk while ye have the light, that darkness may not overtake you. And he who walks in the darkness does not know where he goes.

The Light Announces Its Own Setting

The words come at the very end of the Lord's public preaching. One writer traces the whole arc of John's Gospel through this one phrase — from the light arriving, to the light warning, to the night falling:

John's Gospel opens with these words: "The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world" (John 1:9). In John 9:5 the Lord had said, "As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world," showing that He would not always be here. Now, in John 12:35, He tells them plainly that His time was short. In this chapter the Lord speaks His final words of testimony. In the next chapter Judas "immediately went out. And it was night" (John 13:30).

Modernised from An Outline of Sound WordsOriginal wording

An Answer to the Heart, Not the Question

The crowd had just put a question to Him. He answered something deeper than the question:

Their questions betrayed the darkness of their souls. The Lord does not give a formal reply to their questions. Instead, He answers the condition of soul that prompted them. He was the light of the world; yet a little while and the light would be withdrawn. Their wisdom would be to make use of the light, in case darkness overtook them when it was too late.

Modernised from Hamilton SmithOriginal wording

Another writer points out that obeying this call would have settled their puzzle for them — and would also have exposed whether they genuinely wanted it settled.

The Lord's response to their question was one of true wisdom. It set forth what they needed. If they followed the light then shining, their difficulty would soon be cleared up. And whether they followed Him or not would show if they really wanted to understand what they claimed had puzzled them.

Modernised from C. E. StuartOriginal wording

Walking Without Knowing Where

The reason given for the warning is that a man in the dark cannot tell where he is heading. There is no second source of light to fall back on:

How dreadful is the condition of those in the darkness: "whoever walks in the darkness does not know where he is going." Such is the condition of man without the knowledge of God as found in Jesus. There is not a ray of divine light outside of Christ. Nothing in the philosophy or religion of man can guide a man rightly in this world, or lead him to God and to the eternal life that is in His Son.

Modernised from An Outline of Sound WordsOriginal wording

One writer made the contrast personal, speaking to an unbeliever:

Both you and I are alike sinners before God. But the difference between us is this. You do not believe in the Lord Jesus. You are walking in darkness, and you do not know where you are going — to judgment, and the lake of fire. I do believe in Him. I have got out of darkness by letting in the light, and I know clearly where I am going — "to be with Christ, for that is far better." A man who takes a leap in the dark, when he could take one in the light, must be a downright fool.

Modernised from W. T. P. WolstonOriginal wording

Light Refused Makes the Night Deeper

Darkness "coming upon you" is not merely a return to how things were before. Refusing light costs more than never having had it:

They were most highly favoured in having the Light of the world among them. He had brought them the most wonderful knowledge, even the full revelation of God in His own Person. But they had rejected Him, and an awful darkness was about to descend upon them. It was bad enough to be in darkness before the light came. But to refuse the light would leave them in greater darkness than they had ever known.

Modernised from An Outline of Sound WordsOriginal wording

The withdrawal was not a failure of the light. It was the answer to what men did with it:

It is not only that men did not believe in the light; they hated it. And yet it was the light of divine love. But it was the light of holy love, and it revealed and condemned the thoughts of the natural and corrupt mind of man. And because they were determined to go on in their corrupt ways, they rebelled against it. Therefore the light had to be withdrawn.

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The Window Is Still Open

The verse ended one day, but it did not end all daylight. The same light that set over Judea rose elsewhere:

This Ruler of the day sets in Judea, only to rise in other spheres. For His cry in these closing verses is not addressed to Israel only, but to the whole earth. It is the same "Light of the world," which had lately run His race in Judea, coming out of His chamber to run a longer race. And He is running that race still. "The day of salvation" is still with us. We may still walk without stumbling; we may still know where we are going.

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Summary

- Light offered. He came as the light of the world, and He warned that His time was almost over. From John 1 to John 13, the day was closing and night was falling.

- Light urged. He did not argue the point. He pressed them to use the light while it was there. Following it would have cleared up their difficulty.

- Light needed. The man in the dark does not know where he is going. No philosophy or religion outside Christ gives a single ray of light.

- Light refused. Rejecting the light leaves a man in deeper darkness than before it ever shone. Men hated the light, so it had to go.

- Light still shining. The day of salvation has not closed. The same light runs a longer race today. We can still walk and still know where we are going.

John 12:36 · Darby

While ye have the light, believe in the light, that ye may become sons of light. Jesus said these things, and going away hid himself from them.

These are the last words Jesus speaks in public in John's Gospel — an urgent appeal to trust the light while it still stands in front of them. The verse holds two things at once: an open invitation to become sons of light, and a door closing.

The Light Is a Person

The word "light" here is not an idea or a teaching. One writer puts it plainly:

"The light." Jesus meant Himself — that is, that He is God.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

A Little While

The appeal has a time limit. The light was not going to stay. Refusing it would leave people worse off than before.

This was a solemn warning to those who heard the Lord. They were most highly favoured in having the Light of the world among them. He had brought them the most wonderful knowledge, even the full revelation of God in His own Person. But they had rejected Him, and an awful darkness was about to descend on them. It was bad enough to be in darkness before the light came. But to have refused the light would leave them in greater darkness than they had ever been in before.

Modernised from An Outline of Sound WordsOriginal wording

Believe, Not Debate

The crowd wanted their questions answered. He does not answer them. He tells them to trust Him instead.

The Lord does not answer their questions. It was not merely their intellect that needed correction. If they needed enlightening, they must realise that He Himself was the light. They must put their confidence in Him, not in their own understanding, which left them only in confusion... All they really needed was to believe in Him, the true Light, to become children of light. If they refuse this, then they are not ready for teaching. So He leaves them, hiding Himself from them.

Modernised from L. M. GrantOriginal wording

Becoming Sons of Light

Becoming a son of light is a position faith brings a person into. One writer sets this verse beside Ephesians 5:8, where the order is reversed.

In John 12:36 we find the expression "sons of light." Looking at the context, we find that the Lord urged those He addressed to have faith in the light. They were to believe so that they might become — that is, get into the position of — "sons of light." In Ephesians 5:8 we find almost the opposite of this, where the apostle urges them to display in their walk the moral characteristics that were already theirs as "children of light."

Modernised from The Bible TreasuryOriginal wording

This light does more than show things. It makes children of those who believe, and it exposes those who refuse.

Had they believed in it they would have become children of it. It had the power of producing a generation of God on earth, for the light was the light of life. But it is not only that men did not believe in the light, they hated it. And yet it was the light of Divine love. But it was the light of holy love, and it revealed and condemned the thoughts of the natural and corrupt mind of man. Because they were determined to go on in their corrupt ways, they rebelled against it. So the light had to be withdrawn.

Modernised from James BoydOriginal wording

He Departed and Hid Himself

The withdrawal at the end of the verse is His own act. It is a judgment on them.

They in their turn force Jesus to take an action for Himself — a last and final one — but in judgment against them: "When Jesus had said these things, He departed and hid Himself from them!" The sun had risen on them in such brightness and shed its beams across their path. Now it has gone down in obscurity, and set until another day, because of their unbelief. They have lost Jesus, and the light of the world has left it!

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What makes it heavier is the privilege thrown away.

He had preached among them. He had worked miracles among them. He also kept His ministry to the land God had promised to Abraham, and never ministered outside it. The people in it had enjoyed opportunities granted to none others. What now was the result, as His public ministry was ending in this way? "He departed and hid Himself from them." Who of them all mourned over His departure? Or looked for where to find Him?

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The Light Still Shines

The rejection did not put the light out. It shines now from a new place.

Hiding Himself from them, He still speaks of "sons of light" (v. 36). He has in view those to whom the light would be precious and who would respond to it with understanding. He who was "the light of the world" has been rejected and cast out. Yet the light still streams from His blessed face in glory — it has reached us.

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Summary

- Light — the light in this verse is Christ Himself. Believing "in the light" means trusting a Person, not a message.

- Limit — the invitation has a deadline. The light was about to be withdrawn. Refusing light leaves a person in deeper darkness than before.

- Faith — He met their questions with a call to believe. Their problem was never a lack of information.

- Sonship — faith in the light does more than inform. It produces sons of light — a generation of God on earth.

- Withdrawal — His departure ended His public ministry, and no one mourned it. Yet the same light still shines from His face in glory, and it reaches us today.