Job 8:8–10

Job 8:8 · Darby

For inquire, I pray thee, of the former generation, and attend to the researches of their fathers;

Bildad answers Job by pointing him backwards. Ask the earlier generations, he says, and the past will settle why Job suffers. That raises a question we still ask. Can old human wisdom, however respected, decide what God is doing with a man?

Bildad's ground

Job's three friends all read his suffering the same way. Each argued from a different authority. This verse shows Bildad's.

Job's three friends completely misunderstood God's government. They claimed he must have been doing evil, or God would not have dealt with him this way. Eliphaz went on personal experience. He said, "As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same." Job 4:8. Bildad is the voice of tradition and the authority of antiquity. He said, "Inquire, please, of bygone ages, and consider what the fathers have searched out." Job 8:8. Zophar displayed law and religiousness. He said, "If iniquity is in your hand, put it far away... then you will lift up your face without blemish." Job 11:14-15.

Modernised from Morrish Bible DictionaryOriginal wording

One writer puts the difference between Eliphaz and Bildad in terms of which sense each man trusted.

Bildad says, in effect: "It does not matter what we have seen with our own eyes in our day. We ought to listen to those who went before us. They know better than we do." So he says, "For inquire, please, of bygone ages" (Job 8:8). Bildad had received his knowledge by being taught it, preferring to use his ears rather than his eyes.

Modernised from George DavisonOriginal wording

Why he distrusts the present

Bildad reaches back because a single life is too short to know much.

In verses 8-10, Bildad showed where he stood. He prized the stored-up treasures of human wisdom. Even in those far-off days, people could search records kept from even earlier times. Eliphaz argued from his own observation — what he had seen himself. Bildad argued from tradition — what the records of earlier days could teach. He distrusted any conclusion drawn from personal experience, because a man's days on earth are only "a shadow."

Modernised from F. B. HoleOriginal wording

Bildad against Eliphaz

His argument also undercuts his friend Eliphaz.

In this Bildad contradicted what Eliphaz had said. If Eliphaz too was born only "yesterday", what was his observation worth? But Bildad's appeal to tradition was just as empty as the appeal of Eliphaz to observation, for Bildad came to the wrong conclusion also.

Modernised from Leslie M. GrantOriginal wording

Respectable, but unreliable

Many voices sound safer than one. That is exactly where the problem starts.

We must admit that Bildad leads us into a much wider field than Eliphaz. The authority of many "fathers" carries far more weight and respectability than the experience of one man. It also looks more modest to follow many wise and learned men than your own experience. But the fact is that neither experience nor tradition will do. Experience may be true, as far as it goes. But you can hardly find two men whose experience matches exactly. And tradition is a mass of confusion, for one father differs from another. Nothing is more slippery or uncertain than the voice of tradition, the authority of the fathers.

Modernised from C. H. MackintoshOriginal wording

Where Bildad should have pointed

There was another place Bildad could have sent Job.

He goes beyond Eliphaz: "For we are but of yesterday." That is true. But what does all the stored-up wisdom of the past give us when the question is God's truth? It is not to the past that we are to turn, but to God and His word. How immeasurably better is the position of those who have the "sure word of prophecy," "the oracles of God."

Modernised from Samuel RidoutOriginal wording

Neither friend appealed to God's own revelation.

Had they appealed to divine revelation, it would have been an entirely different matter. The truth of God is the only standard — the one great authority. It measures everything, and everything must bow to it sooner or later. No man has any right to lay down his own experience as a rule for others; and if no one man has that right, neither has any number of men.

Modernised from C. H. MackintoshOriginal wording

The same pull today

The pull Bildad felt is still with us.

It is always easier to follow tradition than the written word of God. Following tradition does not exercise the conscience. It also spares us the difficulty, sometimes a serious one, of giving reasons for what we do. It is enough that our upbringing from infancy taught us to believe and practise certain things... What one generation hands down to the next may not be bad in itself. It may even have been good, at least for its time. But it sets up a false standard and a human authority in the soul. That authority may not deny the word of God outright, but it will surely put God's word in second place.

Modernised from The Bible TreasuryOriginal wording

Summary

- Eyes. Eliphaz argued from what he had seen himself. His observation settled nothing about Job.

- Ears. Bildad argued from what earlier generations handed down — the voice of tradition and the authority of the past.

- Shadow. He looked back because our days on earth are only a shadow. That reason cancels his friend's method too.

- Confusion. Many fathers sound safer than one man. But they differ from each other, so tradition is a slippery standard.

- Word. God's truth is the one authority that measures everything. Those who hold the oracles of God stand in a far better place than those who search the past.

Job 8:9 · Darby

For we are [but] of yesterday, and know nothing, for our days upon earth are a shadow.

Bildad is answering Job, and he turns to one source of authority: the wisdom of earlier generations. This verse gives his reason. His own generation is too young and too short-lived to know anything worth trusting.

The force of "yesterday"

The phrase Bildad uses is not a comment on his age. It is a way of saying that his life has almost no length at all.

The word yesterday is used for the previous day (Ex. 5:14; John 4:52; Acts 7:28). It is also used for past time in general, as in "a thousand years in your sight are but as yesterday," and when the Lord Jesus is called "the same yesterday, today, and forever" (Ps. 90:4; Heb. 13:8). It is used also as if of "no duration," as in "we are but of yesterday" (Job 8:9).

Modernised from Morrish Bible DictionaryOriginal wording

Bildad's ground: the records of the past

This verse is the hinge of Bildad's method. He will not argue from what he has seen himself, because a man whose days are a shadow has seen too little.

In verses 8-10, Bildad revealed his own standpoint in the argument that was developing. He set great store by the accumulated treasures of human wisdom. Even in those far-off days, people could search records kept from still earlier days. Eliphaz argued from his own observation — what he had seen for himself. Bildad argued from tradition — what the records of earlier days could teach. He distrusted a deduction from one's personal experience, since the days of a man upon earth are but "a shadow."

Modernised from F. B. HoleOriginal wording

At first glance this looks like the humbler position. It does sound better than what Eliphaz said.

Now, it must be admitted that Bildad conducts us into a much wider field than that of Eliphaz. The authority of many "fathers" carries much more weight and respect than the experience of one person. It would also show much more modesty to follow the voice of many wise and learned men than the light of your own experience. But the fact is that neither experience nor tradition will do.

Modernised from C. H. MackintoshOriginal wording

The contradiction Bildad missed

There is an irony in Bildad's words that he seems not to notice. By saying "we know nothing," he cancels out Eliphaz along with himself.

Now Bildad appealed to tradition (vv.8-10). In this he contradicted what Eliphaz had said. If Eliphaz had only been born "yesterday", what value was his observation? But Bildad's appeal to tradition was just as empty as the appeal of Eliphaz to observation, for Bildad came to the wrong conclusion also.

Modernised from Leslie M. GrantOriginal wording

What a short life should have sent him to

Bildad was right that he knew nothing on his own. He was wrong about the remedy. The cure for a shadow-length life is not older men, but God speaking.

Bildad here seeks confirmation of his contention from the wisdom of past ages. He goes beyond Eliphaz: "For we are but as children of yesterday." This is true. But what does the stored-up wisdom of all the past give us when the question is God's truth? It is not to the past that we are to turn, but to God and His word. How immeasurably superior is the position of those who have the "sure word of prophecy," "the oracles of God."

Modernised from Samuel RidoutOriginal wording

Numbers do not change the case. A shared human opinion, however old and however wide, is still human.

No one has any right to make his own experience a rule for others. If one man has no right, neither do many men together. In other words, it is not the voice of man but the voice of God which must govern us all. It is not experience or tradition which shall judge at the last day, but the word of God.

Modernised from C. H. MackintoshOriginal wording

Where the borrowed wisdom led

What Bildad drew from the past was a rule about withering plants and collapsing hopes, aimed straight at his suffering friend.

Next comes Bildad the Shuhite (Job 8), who follows Eliphaz, but with a great deal more harshness, and so draws a sharper reply from Job. In reproving Job he does not hesitate to suppose that his children had brought on themselves the due reward of their deeds, and hints that he himself could not be what he seemed.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

The shadow and what outlasts it

Bildad called his life a shadow to excuse how little he knew. What answers that shadow was not yet shown in his day.

What a contrast this life of "days" and "vanity" and "shadow" is with life eternal! That life is now given in Christ to the believer, with the bright hope of being with Him Who is its source and fulness. There, where He is, we shall have its perfect, unhindered expansion and display in its proper heavenly sphere. But all was veiled then. Now Christ has brought life and incorruption to light through the gospel.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Summary

- Shadow. "Of yesterday" means no duration at all. Bildad's whole appeal rests on how little his own days amount to.

- Search. Because his days are a shadow, Bildad turns from what he has seen to what earlier generations recorded.

- Snag. His words undo Eliphaz too. If everyone is born yesterday and knows nothing, one man's observation proves nothing either.

- Standard. Numbers do not create authority; one man has no right to make his experience a rule, and neither do many men. Only God's word can govern.

- Substance. The shadow is real, but it is not the last word. Life eternal is now given in Christ, and Christ has brought life and incorruption to light through the gospel.

Job 8:10 · Darby

Shall not they teach thee, [and] tell thee, and utter words out of their heart?

Bildad's first speech tells Job to ask the generations that came before. One man's life is too short to judge by. Verse 10 is his confidence that those earlier voices will answer. But commentators ask whether the wisdom of the past can settle a question about God's ways at all.

The ground Bildad stands on

Bildad's method differs from that of the friend who spoke before him. One writer sets the two side by side:

In verses 8-10, Bildad showed where he stood in the argument that was developing. He valued highly the piled-up treasures of human wisdom. Even in those far-off days, people could search records kept from still earlier times. Eliphaz argued from his own observation — what he had seen himself. Bildad argued from tradition — what could be learned from the records of earlier days. He did not trust a conclusion drawn from one person's experience, since a man's days on earth are only "a shadow."

Modernised from F. B. HoleOriginal wording

An argument that turns back on his friend

Bildad says we were born yesterday and know nothing. That admission cuts against his friend:

In this, Bildad contradicted what Eliphaz had said. If Eliphaz was born only "yesterday", what value was his observation? But Bildad's appeal to tradition was just as empty as the appeal of Eliphaz to observation, for Bildad came to the wrong conclusion too.

Modernised from Leslie M. GrantOriginal wording

Why the voice of many is still not enough

Many wise voices sound humbler than one man's eyes. One writer grants that, then takes it apart:

The authority of many "fathers" carries much more weight and respect than the experience of a single individual. What is more, letting many wise and learned men guide you shows much more modesty than following the light of your own experience. But the fact is that neither experience nor tradition will do... As for tradition, it is a mass of confusion — one father differs from another, and nothing can be more slippery or uncertain than the voice of tradition.

Modernised from C. H. MackintoshOriginal wording

Whose heart the words come from

The ESV has the fathers uttering words "out of their understanding." The older translation used below reads "out of their heart," and one writer's answer turns on that word:

So Bildad goes on with this: "Will they not teach you, and tell you, and utter words out of their heart?" But we want the words out of God's heart. Only His heart can do that... and their thoughts were no better than the marsh plant that grew out of the water, or the reed that grew out of the mud.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

How far back to go

Bildad points backwards for the answer. The same writer agrees with the direction, but not with where Bildad stops:

Those are the two ways in which men are apt to slip away from the truth — confidence in self; confidence in other people no better than oneself; confidence in anyone but God. So he says, "Enquire, I pray you, of the former age" — for people think that a little further back is where we should go. Why, beloved friends, we want to go back to the beginning; we want to go back to God's beginning.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Three men, three methods, no answer

Bildad's ear for the past is one of three human methods tried in this book. All three end in the same place:

Eliphaz used his eyes; Bildad used his ears; and Zophar used his brains. Not one of them found the solution to this problem by human wisdom, however they gained that wisdom... Had it depended upon our eyes, or our ears, or our brains, what should we have known of these wonderful things?

Modernised from George DavisonOriginal wording

What we have that Bildad did not

The verse assumes the past can teach. One writer weighs that against what God has given since:

While this is true, what does the gathered wisdom of all the past give us when the question is God's truth? We are not to turn to the past, but to God and His word. Those who have the "sure word of prophecy," "the oracles of God," are in a position far beyond compare.

Modernised from Samuel RidoutOriginal wording

Summary

- Ears — Bildad's authority is what earlier generations handed down, not what he has seen for himself.

- Yesterday — his own words, that we know nothing, cancel the observation his friend argued from.

- Many hearts — the fathers disagree with each other, so the voice of a crowd of men is no steadier than one man's.

- God's heart — the verse offers words out of their heart; what a sufferer needs is words out of God's heart.

- The beginning — the cure is not a little further back in the past. It is God's beginning, and now His written word.