Job 4:7–11

Job 4:7 · Darby

Remember, I pray thee, who that was innocent has perished? and where were the upright cut off?

Eliphaz asks Job a question that sounds like comfort but works like an accusation. He challenges Job to name one innocent person who was ever destroyed. Behind it lies a rule about how God runs the world. The book of Job sets out to correct that rule.

The Argument Hidden in the Question

The question is not really a question. It is a trap. If God is just and Job is suffering, only one conclusion is left.

Eliphaz had told Job he was a pious and righteous man (verse 6). And now he tells him: "Remember: who that was innocent ever perished? Or where were the upright cut off?" Only those who plow iniquity and sow wickedness reap what they have sown. God makes them perish in His wrath. They are cut off even if they were like strong lions. What dogmatic logic! Job, if you are righteous and suffering like this, then God has no justice at all. But if God is just, then you have plowed iniquity and sown wickedness, and all your suffering is your own harvest.

Modernised from Arno Clemens GaebeleinOriginal wording

The pressure of that logic is felt by Job long before he can answer it.

But while these things are true, generally, Eliphaz has lost all distinction between the righteous and the wicked, and presses Job into a dilemma which he is already beginning to feel — either he or God is unjust!

Modernised from Samuel RidoutOriginal wording

Where Eliphaz Got His Rule

Notice what Eliphaz appeals to. Not to a word from God, but to what he has watched happen.

These sentences make it clear. Eliphaz belonged to that class of people who argue mainly from their own experience. His motto was, "As I have seen." Now, what we have seen may be all true enough, so far as we are concerned. But it is a total mistake to build a general rule on one person's experience. It is a mistake thousands make. What, for instance, had the experience of Eliphaz to do with Job? Perhaps he had never met a case just like it. And if there is a single point of difference between the two cases, then the whole argument from experience counts for nothing.

Modernised from C. H. MackintoshOriginal wording

The Answer Eliphaz Forgot

Eliphaz meant the question to be unanswerable. The Bible answers it early, in the death of Abel at his brother Cain's hand.

"Remember: who that was innocent ever perished?" — now he comes to his false comfort... Well, what about Abel? I am beginning early enough in the Bible, and with a clear example... there was Abel that perished. We are speaking about perishing in this world. Job never had a question about the next, and they were looking not at the next world but at this. It is not a question of faith at all. It was a question of sight. They were drawing all their conclusions from what they saw. That is always a false ground for a believer... Abel was righteous, and the unrighteous man cut him off. Abel was completely guiltless. Cain could not endure it, because the LORD accepted Abel's offering.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

There is an obvious objection: Eliphaz lived long before Genesis was written down.

No doubt he knew nothing of Genesis, since that book was likely not written in his day. Yet people still knew ancient things through tradition they had kept with care. What about Abel? He perished being innocent. The first disaster recorded after sin entered the world disproved the position Eliphaz took up.

Modernised from F. B. HoleOriginal wording

Evidence Replaced by Assumption

Eliphaz never produces a charge. He reads Job's ruined circumstances backwards into Job's character.

He had no evidence at all that Job had sinned, but he treated Job's condition as evidence enough that he must have sinned. He says, "Who that was innocent ever perished?" But Job had not perished. "Where were the upright cut off?" But Job was not cut off... there was not the slightest sign that this applied to Job. God called him "a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil" (Job 1:8).

Modernised from Leslie M. GrantOriginal wording

The Test That Settles It

One case destroys the rule completely. God pointed to it in His very first promise of a Deliverer.

There surely, if anywhere, is the pattern of all perfection in this world. Was He to pass through without suffering? Would the serpent spare Him?... God's first revelation about the Seed of the woman, the coming Deliverer, should have guarded them, like others, from the sad mistake the book of Job sets out to correct. It is a bruised One that is to bruise Satan finally... Does suffering, even suffering no one can match, mean there was evil in Him? Not at all. So the theory is false. The theory says the only cause of a man's suffering in this world is evil that God sees in him. And the measure of truth in it does not make the falsehood less harmful. It makes it more harmful.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Summary

- Rule. Eliphaz assumes the innocent are never destroyed. So suffering must mean guilt. It is a rule built from one man's observation.

- Trap. That rule forces Job into a dilemma: either he is a secret sinner, or God is unjust.

- Refutation. Abel answers it. He was righteous and guiltless, yet an unrighteous man cut him off — the first disaster after sin entered the world.

- Assumption. Eliphaz had no evidence against Job. He treated Job's suffering as the proof. God had called Job blameless and upright.

- Test. Measure the rule against Christ. He suffered more than anyone, yet no evil was in Him. The rule is false, whatever truth it holds.

Job 4:8 · Darby

Even as I have seen, they that plough iniquity and sow mischief, reap the same.

Eliphaz, the first of Job's friends to speak, ends his opening argument with a picture from farming: the harvest tells you what was planted. The question is whether that saying, true as it sounds, explains why Job lost everything.

The Picture in the Words

The word for "plow" carries more than farming. It is also used as a picture of plotting evil.

The word literally means to break up the ground for planting. It is also used as a picture of "plotting" wickedness. Job 4:8; Hosea 10:13. Israel, looking back on the trials they went through, says, "The plowers plowed upon my back; they made long their furrows." Psalm 129:3. This surely points to what the blessed Lord suffered on earth, above all the scourging.

Modernised from Morrish Bible DictionaryOriginal wording

Eliphaz's Authority: What He Had Seen

Eliphaz builds his case on one phrase: "As I have seen." His own experience is his whole authority.

These sentences make it clear that Eliphaz was one of those people who argue very much from their own experience. His motto was, "As I have seen." Now, what we have seen may be true enough for us. But it is a total mistake to build a general rule on one person's experience, and thousands still fall into it. What, for instance, had the experience of Eliphaz to do with Job? Perhaps he had never met a case exactly like it. And if there is a single point of difference between the two cases, then the whole argument from experience counts for nothing.

Modernised from C. H. MackintoshOriginal wording

Right Statement, Wrong Address

The saying itself is sound. The error is the man Eliphaz pins it on.

In this speech Eliphaz takes trouble to show Job that everyone on the earth reaps what he sows. "As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same" (Job 4:8). All he says is true in principle, but in Job's case it is false. It is right in itself and wrong in its application. Often the wicked grow old in sin, while the good are cut off in the strength of their youth. The ungodly often live in plenty while those who fear God have to do without the common necessities of life.

Modernised from H. L. RossierOriginal wording

The Rule Broken Early

Eliphaz had already asked who ever perished being innocent. The very first death recorded after sin entered the world answers him.

But in his next paragraph (verses 7-11) Eliphaz completely misunderstands the situation. He asks, "Who that was innocent ever perished?" ... What about Abel? He perished being innocent. Why, the first disaster recorded after sin entered the world disproved the position Eliphaz took up. The righteous Abel was cut off. So the idea, which he worked out with his picture of the lions, breaks down. Reaping disaster does not always mean that those who reap "plow iniquity and sow trouble."

Modernised from F. B. HoleOriginal wording

Where the Method Leads

The mistake is not only in the logic. It shapes how Eliphaz treats his friend.

This harshness shows a wrong principle in Eliphaz, and it comes out more plainly as he goes on. For him sin and suffering are root and fruit. He knows no classes of suffering. He does not tell the righteous apart from the wicked. So in the end he turns out to be a false accuser of his friend.

Modernised from Samuel RidoutOriginal wording

The Charge Beneath the Words

The words never name Job. One writer sees Satan himself behind the thrust.

Quick as thought, Satan gives the thrust he gave to Job: "As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same." "By the breath of God they perish." This is the thin end of Satan's great wedge. It is the first hint that Job is a hypocrite. We shall find this wedge driven, blow after blow, as we go on in the book.

Modernised from C StanleyOriginal wording

Sowing and Reaping Held Rightly

The law of sowing and reaping is still true. Forgiveness does not cancel it, and it does not cancel forgiveness.

"Whatever one sows, that will he also reap." The sin of sowing weeds may be forgiven, but the reaping must match the sowing. The first is grace, the second is government. Each acts in its own sphere, and neither interferes with the other... God let David walk the courts of the sanctuary as a subject of grace (2 Samuel 12:20). Only later did David climb the rough slopes of the Mount of Olives as a subject of government (2 Samuel 15:30). We may safely say this: David's heart never felt divine grace more deeply than at the very time he was feeling the righteous action of divine government.

Modernised from C. H. MackintoshOriginal wording

Summary

- Plowing — The word for tilling soil also pictures plotting evil. Wrong deeds start as plans.

- Seeing — Eliphaz argues from what he has watched happen. One case unlike his own, and the argument counts for nothing.

- Sowing — The saying is true in principle but false about Job. The wicked often grow old in plenty while those who fear God go without.

- Accusing — Treat suffering and sin as root and fruit, and you stop comforting your friend and start accusing him.

- Reaping — The harvest is real, but it is God's government, not our verdict on a friend. Forgiven sin still has a harvest, and grace is felt most deeply there.

Job 4:9 · Darby

By the breath of +God they perish, and by the blast of his nostrils are they consumed.

Eliphaz, one of Job's friends, has just laid down his rule: those who plow iniquity reap the same. Verse 9 shows God collecting that harvest by His own breath — and the question is whether this neat rule fits the man in front of him.

The breath and blast of God

One writer traces this phrase through Scripture while commenting on a New Testament passage that uses the same picture. He finds it covers both creation and judgment, and puts this verse with the judgment passages.

"The breath of his mouth" expresses the inner energy of divine power (whether creative, Ps. 33:6, or judicial, 2 Sam. 22:16, Job 4:9, Ps. 18:15, Isa. 11:4, Isa. 30:33) with which the Lord will dispatch the lawless one.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Another writer checks where else Scripture uses the phrase.

"The breath, or spirit of his mouth" does not, as far as I can gather from Scripture, mean "the gospel" or the "saving influences of the Spirit." Job 4:9-15, 30; Isaiah 30:28 and 33 all use the phrase of judgment on wicked persons, not of converting influences on men's souls.

Modernised from W. TrotterOriginal wording

The logic Eliphaz is building

Put the verse back with the two before it and the argument becomes a trap with only two exits.

Eliphaz had told Job he was a pious and righteous man (verse 6). And now he tells him: "Remember: who that was innocent ever perished? Or where were the upright cut off?" Only those that plow iniquity and sow wickedness reap what they have sown. God makes such to perish in His wrath. They are cut off even if they were like strong lions. What dogmatic logic! Job, if you are righteous and suffering like this, then God is without any justice. But if God is justice, then you have plowed iniquity and sown wickedness, and all your suffering is your own harvest.

Modernised from Arno Clemens GaebeleinOriginal wording

True sometimes, not always

The statement is true. The error is treating what sometimes happens as a rule that always holds.

Eliphaz shows in a very animated and striking way what is a general modern principle — "As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same." But it is not an absolute rule. There are those who have sown and plowed iniquity too, and yet they have reaped a good deal in this world. They have stored up wealth and honour to the highest degree, and have become kings and emperors and all the rest of it. It was extremely short-sighted to talk as he did. "By the breath of God they perish" — sometimes. That is true, and Job never denied it, without making it an absolute truth or an absolute falsehood — "and by the blast of his anger they are consumed."

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

The case that breaks the rule

One name from the opening pages of the Bible collapses the whole structure.

In his next paragraph (verses 7-11) Eliphaz completely misunderstands the situation. He asks, "Who that was innocent ever perished?" … What about Abel? He perished being innocent. The first disaster recorded after sin entered the world disproved the position Eliphaz took. The righteous Abel was cut off. So the idea, which he developed by his figure of the lions, broke down. Reaping disaster does not necessarily mean that those who reap "plow iniquity and sow trouble."

Modernised from F. B. HoleOriginal wording

Abel was the son of Adam and Eve, and his brother Cain killed him.

Experience turned into a law

Notice where Eliphaz got his rule. He watched, and then he generalised.

These sentences make it clear that Eliphaz belonged to the kind of people who argue mostly from their own experience. His motto was, "As I have seen." Now, what we have seen may be true enough, so far as we are concerned. But it is a total mistake to build a general rule on one person's experience, and yet thousands fall into it.

Modernised from C. H. MackintoshOriginal wording

Every word true, the whole thing wrong

So the problem is not in any single sentence Eliphaz speaks.

Every word may be true in itself; all is said with the greatest dignity and force; yet it is misapplied and one-sided, and so, in effect, mistaken as a whole. Eliphaz assumes that God is displaying His government right now, measuring out prosperity or hardship to each person exactly as they deserve. This is false ground, and it ruins the application, especially to one like Job.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Summary

- Breath. God acts directly. The same power that creates also judges, and Scripture uses this phrase of judgment on the wicked, not of saving influence.

- Rule. Eliphaz turns that judgment into the fixed law of every life. Suffering proves guilt, so either Job is a sinner or God is unjust.

- Sometimes. It does happen, but it is not an absolute rule. Many plow iniquity and still gather wealth and honour in this world.

- Abel. One innocent man cut off at the start of the Bible is enough to break the rule, and it breaks over Job too.

- Misapplied. True words go wrong as a whole when one man's experience becomes the law for everyone, and Job is the proof.

Job 4:10 · Darby

The roar of the lion, and the voice of the fierce lion, and the teeth of the young lions, are broken;

Eliphaz closes this part of his speech with a picture from the wild. The strongest hunter alive is silenced and toothless. Two questions follow. Is this a true rule about how God deals with people? And has Eliphaz any right to aim it at the broken man in front of him?

The lion picture

Why lions? A lion is strength that nothing seems able to match.

Then he brings in the lions as a picture. However strong and great and matchless a lion may be, he may still be broken. And so it is with men who play the lion in the world.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

The verse names the animal three times over — the lion, the fierce lion, the young lions. The roar goes quiet. The teeth are broken. Nothing of the hunter survives.

Aimed at Job

Eliphaz never names his friend. But the picture fits Job's own fall from wealth to ruin, and that is the effect he wants.

He does not even consider the difference between a believer and an unbeliever in the way God deals with them. An unbeliever, because of his sin, may perish by the blast of God and by the breath of His anger. The strength of this evil may be compared to the roaring of a lion, but even the teeth of the young lions would be broken. Job could be compared to a lion in the earlier strength of his wealth, so now he was like a lion that perishes, or a lioness losing her cubs. Eliphaz does not say this to encourage Job. He says it to imply that Job must have brought this disaster on himself by secret sin.

Modernised from Leslie M. GrantOriginal wording

True in general, false as a rule

What Eliphaz says does happen. The mistake is turning a common observation into a fixed law that must explain every case.

Eliphaz shows in a lively and striking way what is a general modern principle — "As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow wickedness reap the same." But it is not an absolute rule. There are people who have sown and plowed iniquity too, and yet they have reaped a good deal in this world. They have piled up wealth and honour in the highest degree. They have become kings and emperors and all the rest of it. It was very short-sighted to talk as he did. "By the blast of God they perish" — sometimes.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

The earliest days of the Bible hold one case Eliphaz cannot explain.

What about Abel? He perished being innocent. The first disaster recorded after sin entered the world disproved the position Eliphaz took up. The righteous Abel was cut off. So the idea he built up with his picture of the lions broke down. Reaping disaster does not have to mean that those who reap "plow iniquity and sow wickedness."

Modernised from F. B. HoleOriginal wording

The trap it sets

Because Eliphaz treats suffering as proof of guilt, he leaves Job only two doors, and both of them are bad.

No matter how strong and mighty they are, they are cut off, like fierce lions with their teeth broken out. These things are true in general. But Eliphaz has lost all distinction between the righteous and the wicked. He presses Job into a dilemma Job is already beginning to feel — either he or God is unjust!

Modernised from Samuel RidoutOriginal wording

The root of the error is his method. He treated his own observation as the final word. He never asked whether he had ever seen Job doing evil (Leslie M. Grant).

The warning for friends

The lion image is not just bad logic. It is a hard thing to say to a friend in the middle of his trials.

What he says is true. Job had comforted others in times of distress, and he should have borne up under his own trials. Yet would we not expect some words of sympathy from a friend — a "brother born for adversity"? Would grace not teach us to "weep with those who weep"? ... This harshness shows a wrong principle in Eliphaz, and it comes out more clearly as he goes on. For him, sin and suffering are root and fruit. He knows no classes of suffering. He fails to tell the righteous and the wicked apart, and so in the end he turns out to be a false accuser of his friend.

Modernised from Samuel RidoutOriginal wording

So the safeguard is simple: never read a person's heart off their circumstances. "We are bound to wait for solid fact ... sometimes a good man may be in such circumstances that appearances are very much against him" (William Kelly).

Summary

- Broken. Roar, voice, teeth — the verse takes the lion apart piece by piece. The mightiest human strength can break, and men "who play the lion in the world" are not exempt.

- Aimed. Eliphaz never names Job, but the ruined lion is Job. The picture hints at secret sin behind visible loss.

- Partly true. Sowing wickedness often does reap disaster. But it is not an absolute rule: plenty of wicked men gather wealth and honour instead.

- Disproved. Abel perished innocent. The first disaster after sin entered the world already breaks Eliphaz's rule.

- Cruel. Eliphaz loses the line between the righteous and the wicked. That leaves Job a false choice — he is unjust, or God is — and turns a friend into an accuser.

Job 4:11 · Darby

The old lion perisheth for lack of prey, and the whelps of the lioness are scattered.

Eliphaz has been building a picture of ruined lions — roaring, fierce, their teeth broken out. This verse ends the picture: even the strongest hunter starves, and his cubs scatter. The question is whether that rule always holds, and whether it fits the suffering man in front of him.

The Lion as a Figure of the Mighty Wicked

Eliphaz has just said that people reap what they sow. He then reaches past human examples for something wilder to make the same point.

Eliphaz begins with a glance at Job's past claim to be righteous, but only to rebuke him for failing to endure... All he sees is that righteousness must win and the wicked must be ruined beyond recovery. He shows it with pictures taken not only from men, but from the wildest of beasts crushed under God's hand.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Eliphaz chooses the lion because nothing in the animal world looks less likely to go hungry.

Then he brings in the lions as a picture. However strong and great and unmatched a lion may be, he can still be broken. The same is true of men who play the lion in the world.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

The Hidden Point Aimed at Job

The dying lion and the scattered cubs are not general poetry. They match Job's own losses — and one writer points out what Eliphaz never stops to weigh.

He does not even consider the difference between a believer and an unbeliever in the way God deals with them... Since Job could be compared to a lion in the earlier strength of his wealth, he was now like a lion that perishes, or like a lioness losing her cubs. Eliphaz does not say this to encourage Job. He says it to imply that Job must have brought this disaster on himself by secret sin.

Modernised from Leslie M. GrantOriginal wording

An Argument That Cannot Bear the Weight

The argument works only if its opening claim holds: that no innocent person is ever destroyed. One old story breaks it.

But in his next paragraph (verses 7-11) Eliphaz reads the situation entirely wrong. He asks, "Who ever perished, being innocent?"... What about Abel? He perished being innocent. The first disaster recorded after sin entered the world disproved the position Eliphaz took up. The righteous Abel was cut off. So the idea he built up with his picture of the lions broke down. Reaping disaster does not have to mean that those who reap "plow iniquity, and sow wickedness."

Modernised from F. B. HoleOriginal wording

The Trap It Sets

The lion picture is not cruel because it is false. On its own it is true enough. It turns cruel when Eliphaz stretches it to cover every case of suffering.

How often had the wicked been cut off, reaping as they had sowed. No matter how strong and mighty, they are cut off, as fierce lions having their teeth broken out. These things are true in a general way. But Eliphaz has lost all distinction between the righteous and the wicked. He forces Job into a dilemma that Job is already beginning to feel — either Job or God is unjust!

Modernised from Samuel RidoutOriginal wording

Another writer spells out that dilemma in Eliphaz's own voice.

They are cut off even if they were like strong lions. What dogmatic logic! Job, if you are righteous and suffering like this, then God has no justice at all. But if God is just, then you have plowed iniquity and sown wickedness, and all your suffering is your own harvest.

Modernised from Arno Clemens GaebeleinOriginal wording

Summary

- Figure. Eliphaz picks the lion because it is the last creature you would expect to starve. No strength, human or animal, survives God's hand. Anyone who "plays the lion in the world" can be broken.

- Aim. The starving lion and the scattered cubs picture Job himself: his wealth gone, his children gone. The image hints at secret sin without saying it outright.

- Flaw. The whole argument rests on one question: who ever perished while innocent? Abel did. He was the first death after sin entered the world. Disaster reaped is not proof of iniquity sown.

- Trap. Eliphaz loses the distinction between the righteous and the wicked. That leaves Job two exits only: either Job is guilty, or God is unjust.

- Warning. A statement can be true in general, well argued, and still be the wrong word for the person in front of you. Truth aimed at the wrong man wounds him.