Job 38:34–38

Job 38:34

Dost thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that floods of waters may cover thee?

God answers Job at last — not by explaining his suffering, but by asking him about clouds, rain and lightning. Here He asks whether Job can shout at the sky and get a downpour in reply.

Speaking to the Clouds

The picture is a man shouting an order at the sky. A heavy cloud will not obey him:

He had spoken of the rain in verses 25-28. Now He asks whether Job could order the clouds to drop their water whenever he wanted. We may see the clouds dark and heavy, and think at such a time that we could tell them to pour out their rain. Yet it may be that no rain falls at all. Lightning may trigger a rainfall, but who can send the lightning?

Leslie M. Grant

One Voice the Clouds Obey

What is impossible for Job is simple for God. The questions then move from the sky into man's own mind:

"Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go and say to you, 'Here we are'? Who has put wisdom in the inward parts or given understanding to the mind?" It comes down to man now. "Who can number the clouds by wisdom? Or who can tilt the waterskins of the heavens, when the dust runs into a mass and the clods stick fast together?" Well, all that is perfectly simple to God, and God has command in every bit of it.

William Kelly

Why God Asks

These are not riddles for their own sake. They sweep across every science, and they are aimed at something in Job:

And then the rain clouds, the lightnings and their control. What questions these are. They cover every field of what man calls "natural sciences" — geology, meteorology, geography, oceanography, astronomy, and the rest. Job had not a single answer to these questions, and if he had spoken his words would have been folly. And we, 3000 years or more later, are still unable to answer these questions in a satisfactory way. That is true for all our boasted progress and all our scientific discoveries of the great laws of nature. All the boasting of science about getting at the secrets of creation is nothing but foam. One breath of the Almighty scatters man's speculations to the winds, when they leave Him and His Word out. But what is the aim of the Lord in putting these questions? To show that God is greater than man and to humble man, to bring Job to the needed true knowledge of himself and to deliver him from the pride of his heart.

Arno Clemens Gaebelein

Beaten by Small Things Too

The sea and the stars dwarf any man. But God does not stop at the huge things:

He is not satisfied with showing man's smallness by what is vast. He also takes up things we might think small. He has travelled through the immense heavens and the uncontrollable sea, then the treasures of the snow and the hail, of the lightning and the waters. He looks at the heavenly bodies one by one. Then, towards the end of the chapter, He comes down to the little things of nature, where man is just as much at a loss. So it matters little whether we look at the greatest of God's works or the least. Everywhere we meet what man cannot know at all. Job had even claimed to judge the depths of God morally. But he could not face, and had not the slightest real idea of, what God is in the least part of His universe.

William Kelly

Clouds of Rain, Clouds of Grief

Job's own life was under a dark sky. One writer hears two kinds of cloud in these questions:

The LORD ends this part of His speech with fresh questions about the clouds, storms, and rain. Can Job bring down rain, or speak to the lightning flash? Does he have the understanding heart that knows the reason for the clouds — whether clouds of rain or clouds of grief? Can that heart bring the refreshing showers upon the dusty earth? What food for reverent meditation we have in all this.

Samuel Ridout

The Answer God Wants

God does not hand us power over the sky. He turns our eyes to the One who holds all power:

To Him all power in heaven and earth has been given. He has not given us power to change the order of nature, or to go up into those heavens. But He teaches us to give the true answer to His questions, and that answer is, "We see Jesus."

Samuel Ridout

Summary

- Your voice. God asks Job whether the clouds will obey him. A man may stand under a heavy sky and see no rain fall.

- God's voice. What Job cannot command, God commands — clouds, lightning and hard-baked ground alike.

- Every size. The questions run from the vast heavens down to small things, and man is equally at a loss with both.

- The aim. God asks to humble Job, to give him true knowledge of himself, and to free him from the pride of his heart.

- The answer. God gives us no power over nature. He teaches us the one reply that fits — "We see Jesus."

Job 38:35

Dost thou send forth lightnings that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are?

God answers Job out of the storm with a question about the lightning. The point is not weather but power: who gives the orders in this universe?

Why God Asks Instead of Explains

These questions sweep across the whole of nature, and Job could not answer one of them. They also have an aim:

And then the rain clouds, the lightnings and their control. What questions these are. They cover every field of what man calls "natural sciences." That means geology, meteorology, geography, oceanography, astronomy, and more. Job had not a single answer to these questions, and if he had spoken, his words would have been folly... But what is the Lord's aim in putting these questions? To show that God is greater than man, and to humble man. It is to bring Job to the true knowledge of himself that he needs, and to free him from the pride of his heart.

Arno Clemens Gaebelein

The Test Anyone Can Try

Anyone can test this under a dark sky. The question about the lightning follows straight after the question about the clouds:

He had spoken of the rain in verses 25-28. Now He adds a question (v.34): could Job give orders to the clouds to drop their water when Job wanted it? We may see the clouds dark and heavy, and think at such a time that we could tell them to pour out their rain. But it may be that no rain falls at all. Lightning may trigger a rainfall, but who can send the lightning? (v.35).

Leslie M. Grant

Lightning Reports to Someone

The lightning does answer, "Here we are" — but not to Job. It answers to the One who made it. So does everything else God points to:

God speaks first about the lifeless things — the earth, sea, clouds, hail and rain. He shows three things about them. First, that He designed them; second, that He created them; and third, that He controls them. Consider the whole range of lifeless things that make up the world, and the whole range of living creatures. God commands them all... The lesson for Job was this. It was far too great for him to try to get to the bottom of things and look for explanations. God in His counsels and actions is altogether too big for us.

Truth & Testimony

Great Things and Small

God does not only crush Job with the size of the universe. He also takes up the smallest things He has made:

It is clear that God is here bringing to nothing all the proud talk of Job. But He does not stop at showing man's littleness by what is vast. He takes up what we might think are small things... So it matters little whether we look at the greatest works of God or at the least. Everywhere we meet what is completely beyond man's understanding... Job had even claimed to judge the depths of God morally. But he could not face what God is in the least part of His universe, and he had not the slightest idea of it.

William Kelly

What Knowing More Does Not Solve

We can now describe how lightning works. That was never the question. God asked who sends it:

Outward knowledge has advanced, and we have discovered great laws and principles of nature. But can the scientist of today give truer and more satisfying answers to these divine questions than Job could long ago? After all, what is human knowledge but a knowledge of our own ignorance, as Socrates said?... What is the key to all these questions? It is God, the true knowledge of Himself. Knowing Him, we know the Author and Source of all knowledge. Leave Him out of account, and the sum of all science is a blank wall, beyond which the truth still lies hidden.

Samuel Ridout

Storm Before Shower

The storm is not the end of the story. Rain follows it, and Job's trial has the same shape:

But storms and storm-clouds are only the prelude to the rain. Here too God is seen, bringing refreshing after the storm. So with Job: the showers will follow his chastening. Who knows how to divide, to distribute, these refreshing showers? Man would distribute them unevenly, or at the wrong time. God knows when and how to send the welcome relief.

Samuel Ridout

Summary

- Command. The verse asks who gives orders to the lightning. God designed it, made it and controls it, and it answers "Here we are" to Him alone.

- Confession. God asks not to gain information but to humble Job — to bring him to a true knowledge of himself, out of the pride of his heart.

- Coverage. Job is beaten at both ends of the scale. He cannot handle the vast heavens, and he cannot handle the least thing God makes.

- Consequence. A man who cannot explain a rainstorm is in no position to sit in judgment on God's moral dealings with him.

- Comfort. The storm comes before the rain. God alone knows how and when to send the showers of relief.

Job 38:36

Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the mind?

God answers Job with questions, not explanations — about the earth, the sea, the stars and the rain. Then He turns inward, to the mind that has been arguing with Him, and asks who gave it its wisdom.

From the Vast to the Small

This question about the mind comes near the end of a long list, among the smaller items on it. Its place there is deliberate.

He is not satisfied with showing man's smallness by what is vast. He also takes up what we might think of as small things. He has travelled through the immense heavens and the uncontrollable sea, then the treasures of the snow and the hail, of the lightning and the waters. He notices various heavenly bodies in detail. But towards the end of the chapter He comes down to the little things of nature, where man fails just as badly. So it matters little whether we gaze at the greatest of God's works or look into the least. Everywhere we meet what is completely beyond man's understanding.

William Kelly

Who Deserves the Credit

God moves from the weather no man controls to the mind a man thinks he owns.

Lightning may trigger a rainfall, but who can send the lightning? If man does have any wisdom at all, who has put it in his mind? Is he to have the credit for this? Or does he manufacture his own understanding?

Leslie M. Grant

Learning Without the Giver

Centuries of study have not made this question easier to answer. Modern science stands before it where Job stood, and one writer names the key that unlocks it.

And modern science should not claim it can answer what Job could not. Outward knowledge has advanced. Men have discovered great laws and principles of nature. But can the scientist of today give truer and more satisfying replies to these questions from God than Job could long ago? What after all is human knowledge but a knowledge, as Socrates said, of our ignorance? What is the key to all these questions? It is God, the true knowledge of Himself. Knowing Him, we know the Author and Source of all knowledge. Leave Him out, and the sum of all science is a blank wall, with the hidden truth still lying beyond it.

Samuel Ridout

The Heart That Reads the Clouds

Understanding is given for a purpose. A heart that has it can read the clouds — clouds of rain, and clouds of grief.

Can Job bring down rain, or speak to the lightning flash? Does he have the understanding heart that knows the reason for the clouds — whether clouds of rain or of grief — and that can bring the refreshing showers on the dusty earth?

Samuel Ridout

Why God Asks at All

God is not testing Job's education. The questions aim at his pride.

And then the rain clouds, the lightnings and their control. What questions these are! They cover every department of what man calls "natural sciences" — geology, meteorology, geography, oceanography, astronomy. Job had not a single answer to these questions. If he had spoken, his words would have been folly… But what is the Lord's aim in asking them? To show that God is greater than man, and to humble him. To bring Job to the true knowledge of himself that he needed, and to free him from the pride of his heart.

Arno Clemens Gaebelein

The Argument Carried Upward

Everything God has asked so far belongs to the visible world. Job fails there. What then of the world he cannot see?

After all, what was God speaking about? Earthly things. Every one of them belongs to the natural world, and has to do with what is visible, with what is seen and temporary. Job is completely unable to answer even one of these questions. In fact no one has answered them to this day, for all the boasting of science. If that is how it stands with earthly things, what about the heavenly? What about the eternal things? There we depend on God entirely and completely. We know nothing except what He tells us.

William Kelly

Summary

- Gift. Another put whatever wisdom a man has into his mind. He does not manufacture his own understanding.

- Reach. God's questions run from the immense heavens down to the least things in nature. At both ends man meets what is beyond him.

- Blindness. Leave God out and the sum of all learning is a blank wall; know Him, and you know the Source of all knowledge.

- Aim. These questions are not an exam in science but a cure for pride, bringing a man to the true knowledge of himself.

- Result. The mind fails even on visible things. For heavenly and eternal things we depend on God alone — we know only what He tells us.

Job 38:37

Who numbereth the clouds with wisdom? or who poureth out the bottles of the heavens,

God's questions move from the stars down to the clouds just above Job's head. Job was ready to argue with God about His ways, but can he explain even the weather?

Questions Instead of Answers

God's answer to Job comes as a string of questions. One writer weighs how far they reach, and why God asks them.

And then the rain clouds, the lightnings and their control. What questions these are. They cover every department of what man calls "natural sciences." That includes geology, meteorology, geography, oceanography, astronomy and more. Job had not a single answer to these questions, and if he had spoken his words would have been folly. And we live 3000 years or more later. We boast of our progress and of our scientific discoveries of the great laws of nature. Yet we still cannot answer these questions in a satisfactory way. All the boasting of science about getting at the secrets of creation is nothing but foam. One breath of the Almighty, and man's speculations, apart from Him and His Word, are scattered to the winds. But what is the aim of the Lord in putting these questions? To show that God is greater than man and to humble man, to bring Job to the needed true knowledge of himself and to deliver him from the pride of his heart.

Arno Clemens Gaebelein

Counting What Will Not Hold Still

The dare to number the clouds tests the wisdom man claims for himself.

If man does have any wisdom at all, who has put it in his mind? Is he to have the credit for this? Or does he manufacture his own understanding? If one thinks he is wise, let him number the clouds! They are always changing and on the move, and often amazing in their magnificence. So we are wise to observe and marvel at the display they present, rather than to try to number them. May such lessons deeply impress us.

Leslie M. Grant

The Waterskins of Heaven

The second half of the verse pictures the clouds as containers being tipped over. One translation of these lines brings out that picture:

Who regulates the clouds by wisdom, / Or who inclines the pitchers of heaven, / When the dust is poured into hardness, / And the clods are compacted together?

William Kelly

Tipping such vessels is not only a matter of power but of measure, since the same water can either save a harvest or drown it.

Passing from the starry heavens to the sky nearer the earth, Job describes the clouds in beautiful and scientifically accurate language. They are the containing vessels for the waters above the earth. It is God who gathers the vapours of the sky and condenses them into the thick clouds. If these waters fell upon the earth without restraint, the result would be a destructive flood. So He binds these waters in the clouds. He sends them down in gentle showers, as He wills and as the thirsty earth needs.

Samuel Ridout

Small Things Defeat Man Too

After the vast heavens and the sea, God turns to the small things of nature. The effect on Job's argument is the same.

He does not stop at showing man's littleness by what is vast. He also takes up what we might think are small things by comparison. He has gone over the immense heavens and the uncontrollable sea, and then the treasures of the snow and the hail, of the lightning and the waters. He notices various heavenly bodies in detail. But towards the end of the chapter He comes down to the little things of nature, where man is just as much at a loss. So it matters little whether we gaze at the greatest works of God or look into the least. Everywhere we meet what is completely beyond man's reach... What could better expose the futility of man's accusing God? Job had even claimed to judge the moral depths of God. But he could not face what God is in the least part of His universe, and he had not the slightest adequate idea of it.

William Kelly

From Weather to the Sufferer's Own Story

Because this section closes God's questions about sky and storm, one commentator reads the clouds in two senses at once.

The LORD closes this part of His address with fresh questions about the clouds, storms, and rain. Can Job bring down rain, or speak to the lightning flash? Does he have that understanding heart which knows the reason for the clouds, whether of rain or of grief? Is it a heart that can bring the refreshing showers upon the dusty earth? What food for reverent meditation we have in all this.

Samuel Ridout

Summary

- Question. The verse asks; it does not inform. The wisdom to count the clouds and the power to pour them out belong to God alone.

- Wisdom. No one can count the clouds, because they never hold still. The wise response is to watch and marvel.

- Measure. God holds the water in the clouds. Poured out all at once it would flood the earth, so He sends it in gentle showers the dry earth needs.

- Scale. The least works of God humble man as much as the stars do. The greatest and the smallest are both past us.

- Trust. The man who cannot explain a rain cloud cannot judge God's moral ways. The God who times the showers times the griefs too.

Job 38:38

When the dust runneth as into a molten mass, and the clods cleave fast together?

God's questions to Job have climbed through the stars and storms, and here they come down to mud: rain falls until dry dust packs into solid clods. The small scale is the point — Job can no more explain the soil than the sky.

Simple to God

The verse ends a run of questions about clouds and rain. One writer points out how simple all of it is to God:

"Who has put wisdom in the inward parts? Or who has given understanding to the mind?" It comes down to man now. "Who can number the clouds by wisdom? Or who can tilt the waterskins of the heavens… when the dust runs into a mass and the clods stick fast together?" All that is perfectly simple to God, and God has command over every bit of it.

William Kelly

Another writer turns the question on Job — not only power over the rain, but the understanding behind it:

Jehovah concludes this portion of His address with fresh questions about the clouds, storms, and rain. Can Job bring down rain, or speak to the lightning flash? Does he have the understanding heart that knows the reason for the clouds — whether clouds of rain or of grief? Can he bring the refreshing showers upon the dusty earth?

Samuel Ridout

Greatest and least

God has already pointed Job to the heavens, the sea, the snow and the hail. Now He comes down to soil and mud, and the change of scale is the point:

He is not content to show man's littleness by what is vast. He also takes up what we might think are small things. He travels over the immense heavens and the uncontrollable sea, then the treasures of the snow and the hail, of the lightning and the waters. He notices heavenly bodies one by one. But toward the end of the chapter He comes down to the little things of nature, where man is just as much at a loss. So it matters little whether we gaze at the greatest of God's works or look into the least. Everywhere we meet what is entirely beyond man's understanding… Job had even claimed to judge the depths of God morally. He could not face what God is in the least part of His universe, and he had no adequate idea of it at all.

William Kelly

The aim behind the questions

The questions have an aim. One writer names it, and notes that centuries have not supplied the answers:

And then the rain clouds, the lightnings and their control. What questions these are! They cover every department of what man calls "natural sciences" — geology, meteorology, geography, oceanography, astronomy, and the rest. Job had not a single answer to these questions, and if he had spoken, his words would have been folly. And we live 3000 years or more later, with all our boasted progress and our scientific discoveries of the great laws of nature. We are still unable to answer these questions in a satisfactory way. But what is the Lord's aim in putting these questions? To show that God is greater than man, and to humble man. To bring Job to the true knowledge of himself that he needs, and to deliver him from the pride of his heart.

Arno Clemens Gaebelein

From weather to God's ways

The hand that sends rain can also hold it back. One writer links God's goodness in nature with His dealings with people:

If in goodness He meets and supplies the needs of all His creatures by His skilful handling of the forces of nature, then it is easy to see how He may deal with the sins of men and nations. He has only to order the working of these forces so that the supplies are cut back. God makes this work out in such a way as to leave unbelieving men without excuse. For the living God made heaven and earth and sea and all things in them. He "did not leave Himself without witness, for He did good by giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying your hearts with food and gladness" (Acts 14:15-17).

James McBroom

Where it lands

The questions were never answered by Job. They were answered in him:

Jehovah answered Job out of the whirlwind (Job 38, 39). He did not argue, and He did not even instruct. He displayed the witness of His majesty and power, until Job had to say, "Behold, I am of small account; what shall I answer you? I lay my hand on my mouth. I have spoken once, and I will not answer; twice, but I will proceed no further" (Job 40:3-5).

William Kelly

Summary

- Dust — The question moves from stars to soil. Rain packs dry powder into solid clods, and all of it is simple to God.

- Scale — The least of God's works humbles Job as much as the greatest. Great or small, man meets what is beyond his understanding.

- Aim — The questions are not after information. They show that God is greater than man, and free Job from the pride of his heart.

- Reach — The God who sends rain can also hold it back. He deals with men and nations the same way, and the rains are His witness.

- Answer — Job never answers a single question. He lays his hand on his mouth — and that silence is what God was after.