Job 12:17–20

Job 12:17

He leadeth counsellors away spoiled, and judges maketh he fools;

Job is answering Zophar. He turns from his friends' theories to a long description of what God does with the great men of the earth. It names the two groups the world leans on most: those who advise and those who decide. God empties both. What does Job mean by this, and has he told the whole truth?

The men in view

The people named here were not nobodies. They held the posts a society trusts for a wise answer or a fair one.

Without doubt those counsellors and judges were known for their knowledge, and people took them to be wise as well. But there is always a limit in this world, and disappointment often comes at the point where you rest most.

William Kelly

What the stripping does

What God takes from them is not their office. It is the thing that made the office worth anything.

"He leads counselors away stripped, and judges he makes fools" — that is, He takes from counsellors the value of their counsel. So man's wisdom comes to nothing, and the judges become foolish. Man's authority becomes as useless as his wisdom.

Leslie M. Grant

The argument against his friends

Job's friends worked from a fixed rule of God's government: He blesses the good and strikes down the wicked. So, they said, Job's ruin proved his guilt.

Job meets the theory that God repays everyone in this present life with a clear denial and disproof. … God is sovereign; but for that very reason their law of government is a false argument, and to apply it to Him is unjust. God does as He pleases, and among men above all He reverses all calculation.

William Kelly

Job does not deny God's wisdom. What baffles him is the way God uses it.

From verse 13 to the end of this chapter Job reviewed the ways of God in His dealings with men. He agreed that "wisdom and strength" belong to God, and "counsel and understanding" too. Yet he felt that the way God uses these wonderful qualities was full of mystery.

F. B. Hole

True, but only half the picture

The problem is not that Job's picture is false. It is what he leaves out.

All — judges, kings, princes and priests — are held up to contempt by this Almighty One. Truly this is right, if they deserve it, but Job omits that side.

Samuel Ridout

The result is a portrait of God drawn entirely in shadow, which matches the state Job was in.

It is a dreadful picture Job has drawn of God by the one-sided description of His greatness. Not a word of His love and mercy. It is in full keeping with his despairing heart.

Arno Clemens Gaebelein

The lesson Job missed in his own case

Job could see the facts and still not turn them on himself. What God does to others, He could do for him.

If Job had stopped to weigh what these things mean, he might not have sunk so low in his misery. He sees the facts, but fails to apply their lessons in his own case. He says of God, "He uncovers deep things out of darkness, and brings the shadow of death to light" (v.22). Job himself was going through the pain of darkness. He could not uncover deep things from the darkness, or bring light from the shadow of death. But he realised God can do this. Could He not do it in Job's case? Yes indeed, and He did so before long.

Leslie M. Grant

Where Job's words grow bleak, faith has other language for the same almighty God.

How different is the language of faith: "God is our refuge and strength … therefore we will not fear … Be still, and know that I am God" (Ps. 46).

Samuel Ridout

Summary

- Stripped — God takes from trusted advisers the worth of their advice. Their wisdom comes to nothing, and their authority becomes just as useless.

- Limited — this world always has a limit. Disappointment often comes at the very point where you rest most.

- Unpredictable — God reverses all human calculation. That breaks the friends' rule that suffering always proves guilt.

- Half-told — Job's words are true, but he leaves out the other side. Not a word of God's love and mercy — a picture that matches his despairing heart.

- Unapplied — Job saw the facts and missed the lesson. The God who brings deep things out of darkness could do it for him, and soon did.

Job 12:18

He weakeneth the government of kings, and bindeth their loins with a fetter;

Job is replying to friends who insist that suffering always proves guilt. He points to a God who unties kings from their power and then binds them like prisoners — so what can anyone prove from a person's circumstances?

The argument Job is making

The three friends read God's verdict off a man's circumstances. One commentator shows how the changes in Job's list ruin that method:

There are all kinds of change. There is nothing, therefore, that shows the settled judgment of God. Everything among people is in constant flow and change. So nothing could be more foolish than the ground the three friends stand on in their attack on Job.

William Kelly

Loosed and bound in one breath

The two halves of the verse are one event. God unties a king's rule, then ties a belt on the king himself. Kelly's own rendering sets that belt beside the same image a few lines later:

The bond of kings He looses, and binds a belt around their waist... He pours contempt upon princes, and looses the belt of the mighty.

William Kelly

True, but only one side

Job has just outdone the speech of Zophar, one of his three friends. Commentators do not question the truth of his words, but the mood behind them:

Job goes beyond Zophar's speech at every point. He is ahead in the argument... But what follows is true in itself, yet it is only one side of what God does. It is the darkest pessimism, the kind that suited his mind. God strips counsellors bare and makes judges fools. He looses the bonds of kings and leads priests away as plunder. He overthrows the mighty and pours contempt on princes. He increases the nations and destroys them.

Arno Clemens Gaebelein

The side Job passes over is whether these humbled rulers deserved it:

None, no matter how exalted, can escape Him. He breaks down, and ruin is the result. He shuts, and none can open... This Almighty One holds them all up to contempt — judges, kings, princes and priests. That is right, of course, where they deserve it. But Job leaves that side out.

Samuel Ridout

The same power, a different tone

Job's suffering colours how he sees God's greatness. Faith looks at the same power and answers without fear:

In the same way, the nations rise and fall at His word. It is a great picture of unlimited power, but the darkest one possible. We can only shudder at the awful sight. Job's misery has cast a gloomy light over all God's greatness. How different is the language of faith: "God is our refuge and strength… therefore we will not fear… Be still, and know that I am God" (Ps. 46).

Samuel Ridout

Daniel saw God take down one royal line and raise up another. His response was to bless God:

He was living in a time when God had been changing "the times and the seasons." God was also removing kings and setting up kings, showing that wisdom and might are His. Removing the kings of David's line and setting up Nebuchadnezzar had been acts of God. Daniel bowed to this and even blessed God as he acknowledged it.

F. B. Hole

A king bound, and not forgotten

Jehoiachin was a young king of Judah carried off to Babylon. One writer traces what became of him there:

The Babylonian captivity dates from Jehoiachin's reign. He never returned from his captivity. There he spent thirty-six years in prison until the death of Nebuchadnezzar... His son Evil-merodach succeeded him on the throne. His own father had once shut this son up in prison, where he probably got to know the royal Hebrew captive. He was not like the ungrateful cupbearer who, once out of prison, "forgot Joseph"; he remembered his old prison companion.

C. Knapp

Summary

- Change. God unties kings from power and binds them as captives. So no one can read God's verdict off a person's circumstances.

- Collapse. That destroys the friends' rule that suffering proves sin. It was the whole ground of their attack on Job.

- Half-told. Job's words are true, but he tells only one side. He never adds that God is right to humble rulers who deserve it.

- Mood. The same power that looks terrifying through Job's misery is what faith calls refuge: "Be still, and know that I am God."

- Blessed. Daniel watched God remove kings and set up kings, and he blessed God for it. Job shudders at that same power; Daniel worships.

Job 12:19

He leadeth priests away spoiled, and overthroweth the mighty;

Job is answering his friend Zophar, and he out-does him with a long list of what God does to people in power. Verse 19 sits in that list, where even priests lose everything — so the chapter asks whether describing God's power is the same as knowing Him.

Where the verse falls in Job's argument

The chapter moves from sarcasm against the friends to a survey of what God does with human power. One writer sums up this stretch, where not even priests escape, and marks what Job leaves out:

No one, however high their position, can escape Him. He breaks down, and ruin is the result. He shuts, and no one can open; He withholds water and a drought follows, or releases it only to overwhelm in a flood. This Almighty One holds them all up to contempt — judges, kings, princes and priests. Truly this is right, if they deserve it, but Job leaves out that side.

Samuel Ridout

Office and standing give no protection

These verses name the people a society leans on: advisers, judges, trusted speakers, elders. God empties each role of the thing that makes it valuable:

He deprives counsellors of the value of their counsel. So man's wisdom comes to nothing, and the judges become foolish. Man's authority becomes as useless as his wisdom. People everyone counted on lose their speech and their power to help others. Even elders known for their experience find their discernment taken away.

Leslie M. Grant

The same writer sees God disarming the strong, then turns the point back on Job:

The powerful He disarms, taking their power from them. If Job had taken time to consider what these things mean, he might not have sunk so low in his misery. He sees the facts, but fails to apply their lessons to his own case.

Leslie M. Grant

Why Job piles up these reversals

Job answers his friends by showing that nothing in human life stays put long enough to serve as a verdict:

"He leads princes away stripped, and overthrows the mighty. He pours contempt on princes, and weakens the strength of the mighty." There are all kinds of change. There is nothing, then, that shows the settled judgment of God. Everything among men is in flux — a constant flow and change. So nothing could be more foolish than the foundation the three friends built on in their attack on Job.

William Kelly

Older translations read "princes" here, where the ESV reads "priests."

Another writer names the teaching the friends were built on:

They push the teaching that God's government of the earth is a full measure and display of His righteousness — and of the righteousness in man that would match it. That teaching shows total ignorance of what God's righteousness is, and of His ways.

J. N. Darby

True words, but only one side

Job is not wrong about the facts. One writer weighs how he uses them:

Job outstrips Zophar's speech in every way. He is ahead in the argument… he now declares that wisdom and might are with God; He has counsel and understanding. What follows is true in itself. But it is only one side of what God does, and the darkest pessimism, which suited his frame of mind. God spoils counsellors and makes judges fools. He loosens the bonds of kings, leads priests away stripped, and overthrows the mighty. He pours contempt on princes; He increases the nations and destroys them.

Arno Clemens Gaebelein

What faith says instead

Ridout weighs the mood of Job's picture against the mood of a psalm:

It is indeed a great but very sombre picture of omnipotence. We can only shudder at the awful sight. Job's misery has cast a gloomy light upon all God's greatness. How different is the language of faith: "God is our refuge and strength… therefore we will not fear… Be still, and know that I am God" (Ps. 46).

Samuel Ridout

Summary

- Stripped. Job names priests, counsellors, judges, elders and the mighty. God empties each one of what made it useful — wisdom, authority, speech, discernment, strength.

- Unsettled. Everything among men keeps changing, so no one's rise or fall proves God's settled verdict on them.

- Refuted. That constant change destroys the friends' foundation. They taught that God's rule on earth fully displays His righteousness.

- One-sided. Job's words are true in themselves, but they give only one side of what God does, and he tells it in the darkest pessimism.

- Unapplied. He sees the facts and misses the lesson for himself; faith looks at the same power and says, "God is our refuge and strength."

Job 12:20

He depriveth of speech the trusty, and taketh away the judgment of the elders;

Answering his friend Zophar, Job lists what God does to the people everyone else leans on — kings, judges, priests, princes. Here the loss falls on speech and judgment: is Job telling plain truth about God, or has grief left him seeing only half the picture?

What Is Taken Away

The verse names two kinds of respected people: those others rely on for advice, and elders whose long experience earned them a hearing. One writer traces what God removes from each.

God takes from counsellors the value of their counsel. So man's wisdom comes to nothing, and the judges become foolish. Man's authority becomes as useless as his wisdom. People who were thought dependable lose their speech and their power to help others. Even elders known for their experience find their discernment taken away.

Leslie M. Grant

Nothing Among Men Stands Still

Job is not just describing God's power. He is arguing. If God keeps overturning the great, then no one's present position shows God's settled verdict — and that is what his three friends had built their case on.

There are all kinds of change. There is nothing therefore that shows the settled judgment of God. Everything among men is in a state of flux — a constant flow and change. So nothing could be more foolish than the ground the three friends stood on in their attack on Job… And that is what happens where people trust in men.

William Kelly

Where Trust Runs Out

These were the recognised experts of their day — the people you would naturally ask. That is what makes their failure worth noticing.

No doubt those counsellors and judges were people well known for their knowledge, and assumed to be wise as well. But there is always a limit in this world, and disappointment often comes at the point where you lean hardest.

William Kelly

True — But Only One Side

Commentators are careful here. What Job says is accurate, yet his suffering has narrowed what he is willing to see.

Job outdoes Zophar's speech in every way. He is ahead in the argument… he now declares that with God are wisdom and might; He has counsel and understanding. But what follows, though true in itself, is only one side of what God does. It is the darkest pessimism, and it suited the state of his mind.

Arno Clemens Gaebelein

The missing half is any hint that those brought low might deserve it.

No one, however high, can escape Him. He breaks down, and ruin is the result. He shuts, and no one can open… This Almighty One holds them all up to contempt — judges, kings, princes and priests. This is right, if they deserve it, but Job leaves that side out.

Samuel Ridout

Power Without Refuge

Described this way, God's power is overwhelming but offers nothing to hold on to. Faith speaks of the same God in a very different tone.

It is indeed a great picture of God's power, but a very dark one. We can only shudder at the awful sight. Job's misery has cast a grim light over all God's greatness. How different is the language of faith: "God is our refuge and strength… therefore we will not fear… Be still, and know that I am God" (Ps. 46).

Samuel Ridout

The God Who Uncovers Darkness

Job says that God uncovers what is hidden in the dark. He does not see that he himself is the case in point.

In fact, Job was going through the pains of darkness himself. He could not uncover deep things out of the darkness, nor bring light from the shadow of death, but he realised God can do this. Could He not do it in Job's case? Yes indeed, and He did so before long.

Leslie M. Grant

Summary

- Removed. God takes the counsellor's voice and the elder's judgment — the very things that made them worth asking.

- Reversed. Everything among men is in constant flux, so no one's present standing proves God's settled verdict on them.

- Relied on. Human ability always has a limit. Disappointment comes where you leaned hardest.

- Restricted. Job's words are true, yet he tells only the dark half — he never allows that those brought low might deserve it.

- Restored. The God who uncovers deep things out of darkness did that for Job in the end. Faith calls that same power a refuge, where Job could only shudder at it.