Daniel 8:15–19

Daniel 8:15 · Darby

And it came to pass, when I Daniel had seen the vision, I sought for the understanding of it, and behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

Daniel has just seen the vision of the ram and the goat. Now he wants to know what it means. Verse 15 is the turning point of the chapter. The prophet stops looking and starts asking, and heaven answers by sending someone in human form to stand beside him.

Seeking the meaning

Daniel did not stop at seeing. What he wanted next mattered to God.

The prophet was not content with the vision itself, but he "sought to understand it." God approved the desire of his heart, for He delights to share His mind with the seeking soul. So no sooner did the prophet wish to know the meaning of the vision than the interpreter was at hand.

Modernised from Edward DennettOriginal wording

The one with the appearance of a man

Daniel describes the visitor only by his likeness: a man. The next verse gives him a name, and the same messenger appears at other key moments in Scripture.

God sent this angel to Daniel to explain the vision he had seen of the ram and the goat, and to tell him the prophecy of the Seventy Weeks. Daniel calls him "the man Gabriel," and one that had "the appearance of a man." Dan. 8:15; Dan. 9:21. God also sent him to Mary the mother of Jesus, and to Zacharias the father of John the Baptist, to announce the birth of their sons. To Zacharias he said, "I am Gabriel. I stand in the presence of God." Luke 1:19, 26.

Modernised from Morrish Bible DictionaryOriginal wording

Explanation, not repetition

Daniel asked for meaning. You might expect the answer to say the same thing in plainer words.

Never suppose that the explanation of a vision in Scripture is only a repeat of what has gone before. They allude to the past, but they add fresh features not given before. This is very plain here. Most of what the prophet had already seen has now happened. But the explanatory part adds fresh information that looks on to the last days.

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What the interpretation uncovers

One writer links Daniel's question with how far the answer reaches.

I have no doubt Daniel was sure there was much underlying this vision, much that did not appear on the surface, about which God would have him greatly enlightened. That is why he wanted to know its meaning. The angel Gabriel brings him the answer. In the interpretation we learn that the doings of the little horn in the vision are only a faint foreshadowing. What it pictures will take place through a power that will be set up in the east, as the Roman power will be in the west. By means of another power, not his own, he will prosper and destroy. He is an offspring of the great destroyer, the devil, and his aim will be to wipe out every trace of the name of God on the earth. But he will be broken without any human hand. Christ will deal with him at His appearing.

Modernised from James BoydOriginal wording

Another writer puts the weight on timing.

Gabriel is the interpreter of the whole vision. It deserves close study. It points to a future fulfilment. Gabriel told Daniel that the vision has a special meaning for the time of the end.

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Strength given with the understanding

Understanding was not all Daniel received.

First, Daniel hears plainly that the vision looks on to the time of the end. The vision of what will happen to his people in the latter times overwhelms Daniel, and he receives strength to face the truth.

Modernised from Hamilton SmithOriginal wording

Summary

- Seek — Daniel was not satisfied with what he saw; he wanted what it meant. God approved that desire, for He delights to share His mind with the seeking soul.

- Sent — the interpreter was already at hand. Gabriel is the same messenger God later sent to Mary and to Zacharias. He says of himself, "I stand in the presence of God."

- Surpass — the explanation is never a bare repeat of the picture. It points back to the past but adds fresh features, carrying the vision on to the last days.

- Span — what Gabriel unfolds reaches past the little horn to a coming power that no human hand will break. Christ will deal with him at His appearing.

- Strengthen — the truth about the latter days overwhelmed the prophet. The messenger who brought the understanding also brought strength to face it.

Daniel 8:16 · Darby

And I heard a man's voice between [the banks of] the Ulai; and he called and said, Gabriel, make this [man] to understand the vision.

Daniel has just watched a ram and a goat fight across the world stage, and he cannot make sense of it. Then a human voice calls across the water, naming an angel and giving him an order about Daniel.

A seeking heart met with an answer

The verse before this one shows Daniel looking for the meaning. The answer came at once, and that speed says something about God.

The prophet was not content with the vision itself, but he "sought for the meaning." God approved the desire of his heart, for He delights in sharing His mind with the seeking soul. So as soon as the prophet wished to know the meaning of the vision, the interpreter was at hand.

Modernised from Edward DennettOriginal wording

Why a prophet needed a teacher

Daniel's book opens by crediting him with understanding in all visions and dreams. So the order "make this man understand" comes as a surprise.

It is astonishing that in both the seventh and eighth chapters the prophet receives the vision, and yet afterwards he needed an interpreter to understand its meaning. And this is a man said to have had "understanding in all visions and dreams" (chap. 1:17). As for the visions and dreams given to the Gentile, that is easy to understand. We would not expect God to put Himself in direct communication with an idolater. "The friendship of the LORD is for those who fear him" (Ps. 25:14), and "the Lord GOD does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets" (Amos 3:7). But here is Daniel, a man greatly beloved, and he has to be made to understand the vision that has been given to him!

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The angel who is named

This is the first time in the Bible an angel is called by name, and the name reappears at moments that shape everything after.

The angel who was sent to Daniel to explain the vision he had seen of the ram and the male goat, and to reveal to him the prophecy of the Seventy Weeks. Daniel calls him "the man Gabriel," and one who had "the appearance of a man." Dan. 8:15; Dan. 9:21. He was also sent to Mary the mother of Jesus, and to Zacharias the father of John the Baptist, to foretell the birth of their sons. To Zacharias he said, "I am Gabriel. I stand in the presence of God." Luke 1:19, 26.

Modernised from Morrish Bible DictionaryOriginal wording

The name Gabriel carries a meaning, and so does the human form Daniel sees.

Michael is always the warrior-angel, marked out by his name, as Gabriel — "man of God" — is the messenger of God to men. If God draws near to men, He does it in the tender familiarity of manhood. How plainly these names speak to us!

Modernised from Frederick W GrantOriginal wording

Sent, never self-sent

Gabriel does not volunteer. The voice names him, and he answers it.

Gabriel, obedient to the command he had received, came near where Daniel stood.

Modernised from Edward DennettOriginal wording

Being sent is not a lower place. It goes with standing close to God.

The angels are in ministry. Those who stand nearest the throne are perhaps the most abundant in ministry. Well they may be, since they are so near that source of goodness. For Gabriel again and again appears in ministry; and he could say of himself, as one so near the throne, "I am Gabriel. I stand in the presence of God."

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What the interpreter came to give

Gabriel brings more than information. Notice where his explanation points, and what it does to Daniel.

In the verses that follow, the angel Gabriel makes the meaning of these visions known to Daniel. First, he tells Daniel outright that the vision looks on to the time of the end. The vision of what will happen to his people in the latter times overwhelms Daniel, and he is strengthened to face the truth.

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Explanation is not repetition

Gabriel is sent to explain. That raises a question: what does an explanation in Scripture actually do?

We are never to suppose that the explanations of a vision in Scripture are merely a repetition of what has gone before. They refer to the past, but they add fresh features not given before. This is particularly plain in the present case. Most of the earlier part of the vision has already come to pass. The explanation adds fresh information that looks on to the last days.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Summary

- Desire. Daniel wanted the meaning. God delights to answer a seeking soul, and the interpreter was already at hand.

- Command. The voice does not ask; it names and sends. Gabriel obeys at once, and the angels nearest the throne serve the most.

- Messenger. "Man of God" is his name, and a man's form is what Daniel sees. When God draws near to explain, He comes close in a human way.

- Understanding. A gifted prophet still needed a teacher. The vision came first, the meaning second.

- End. What Gabriel adds goes beyond what Daniel saw, carrying him to the time of the end and strengthening him to face it.

Daniel 8:17 · Darby

And he came near where I stood; and when he came, I was afraid, and fell on my face; and he said unto me, Understand, son of man; for the vision is for the time of the end.

Daniel has just seen a vision he cannot explain, and Gabriel comes to interpret it — but the prophet cannot stay on his feet. The verse holds three things: a command to understand, a title given to Daniel, and a time stamp on the vision.

God Answers a Seeking Soul

The command to understand did not fall on a passive man. Daniel had already asked for the meaning.

The prophet was not content with the vision itself, but he "sought for the meaning." God approved the desire of his heart, for He delights in sharing His mind with the seeking soul. So the moment the prophet wanted to know the meaning of the vision, the interpreter was at hand… In this way Gabriel gave him both understanding and strength, so that he could receive the interpretation of the vision.

Modernised from Edward DennettOriginal wording

Why He Could Not Stand

Fear knocked Daniel to the ground. One writer explains why God does not leave a prophet lying there.

The prophet cannot even listen to the message while lying face down. That posture may truly express how the creature is nothing in the presence of God, but it cannot express God's grace towards him. We see this all through the history of the prophets — in Daniel, and again in John the beloved. God cannot utter His thoughts to one prostrate in the dust before Him.

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"Son of Man" — A Title of Exile

Gabriel addresses Daniel by a name used of only one other prophet, Ezekiel, and the shared circumstances of the two men explain it.

God applies it to two of His prophets, Daniel and Ezekiel (Dan. 8:17; Ezek. 2:1, etc.). He raised up both of these men as witnesses at a time when the nation had turned away from His worship and was under a foreign yoke. Rule passed from Israel to the Gentiles… So when the Lord described Himself as the Son of man, He took up a title that until then only prophets in exile had carried.

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The same title runs forward to Christ. In the Gospels one speaker uses it, and no one else.

"The Son of Man" is a title used of Ezekiel about one hundred times, and once of Daniel (Dan. 8:17), the only Hebrew prophet spoken of in this way. The Lord alone in the Gospels uses the title of Himself, about seventy times… The title expresses a wider range of rule and glory than that of king of Israel… It is a title of special delight to the Lord.

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What "the Time of the End" Means

The phrase is not vague. It marks the close of an era with a known starting point.

The end refers to the close of the age. That age began when Nebuchadnezzar rose to supreme power, and it will run on as long as Gentile rule stays on top and Israel is servant to the nations… In Daniel the phrase "the time of the end" comes up again and again (Dan. 8:17; Dan. 11:35, 40; Dan. 12:4, 9). So the end means the close of the period called elsewhere "the times of the Gentiles."

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Not Exhausted in Past History

The vision did come true in history. But Gabriel's opening words point past that.

What Daniel saw came true in history, in Antiochus Epiphanes during the time of the Maccabees. But Gabriel's interpretation now teaches us that this historical fulfilment also pointed forward to another fulfilment… So in his very first words the angel says, "At the time of the end shall be the vision"; and again, "Behold, I will make you know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be" (vv. 17, 19).

Modernised from Edward DennettOriginal wording

The writer quotes an older Bible version here; the ESV reads "the vision is for the time of the end."

The End of the Indignation

Verse 19 names what this end is the end of: "the indignation."

What was the beginning of the indignation? What does "the indignation" mean?… It is God's holy displeasure at the ongoing idolatry and corruption of Israel. So in the end He let the Gentiles not only conquer them, but use their victory to drive them out of the land. The "end of the indignation" will close with their restoration, inside and out, as all the prophets testify.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

Summary

- Sought — Daniel asked for the meaning first. God delights to share His mind with a seeking soul, so the interpreter came at once.

- Strengthened — fear flattened the prophet. God does not speak His thoughts to a man lying in the dust, so Gabriel gave strength as well as understanding.

- Styled — "son of man" named only Daniel and Ezekiel, prophets who served after rule passed from Israel to the Gentiles. The Lord later took up that same exile title.

- Scheduled — "the time of the end" means the close of the times of the Gentiles. That era began under Nebuchadnezzar.

- Still ahead — history gave one fulfilment under Antiochus Epiphanes. But Gabriel's own words push the vision on to the end of God's indignation and Israel's restoration.

Daniel 8:18 · Darby

Now, as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep stupor, with my face toward the ground. And he touched me, and set me up where I had stood.

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Daniel 8:19 · Darby

And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be at the end of the indignation for at the set time the end shall be.

Gabriel comes near to explain the vision of the ram and the goat. His first move is to tell Daniel when it lands: not in the prophet's own day, but at "the latter end of the indignation." That phrase raises the two questions this verse turns on. What is God's indignation? And who fixes the "appointed time" when it ends?

The vision reaches past Antiochus

The vision of Daniel 8 came true once in history. Commentators read Gabriel's words as proof that this was not the whole story.

History fulfilled what Daniel saw in Antiochus Epiphanes, during the time of the Maccabees. But Gabriel's interpretation now teaches us that this fulfilment in history also pointed forward to another one. So the full realisation of what is described will come after the rapture of the Church, when the Jews are once more in their own land.

Modernised from Edward DennettOriginal wording

That reading rests on a wider rule about how Scripture explains a vision.

We must never suppose that the explanations of a vision in Scripture only repeat what came before. They point back to the past, but they add fresh features not given before. That is very plain here. The part of the vision already seen has mostly happened. The explanation, though, adds fresh information that looks on to the last days.

Modernised from William KellyOriginal wording

What "the indignation" means

The word is not vague anger. In the prophets it carries a fixed sense.

Anyone at all familiar with the prophets can see what this means. The prophet shows that the idolatry of Israel, and above all the idolatry of their kings, roused God's indignation against His people. He sends a chastening on them. But whatever the first effects of that chastening, the evil broke out again with fresh fury, as evil always does unless someone puts it away. So that terrible word rings out: "For all this His anger has not turned away, and His hand is stretched out still." His wrath burns again and again.

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Where the indignation stops

"The latter end" implies a stopping point. Commentators find that point in Isaiah, where God's anger ends in the fall of Israel's oppressor.

In the interpretation we get the plain statement that the events described here happen "at the latter end of the indignation." The indignation meant here is the one against Israel. Isaiah 10:25 speaks of this time of indignation. It ends with the destruction of the Assyrian, who is its chief instrument. Read in context, all these passages show us that these prophecies will come true in the last days. It will be "the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be delivered out of it."

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Why does God break the very power He used?

God will use the Assyrian there as the rod of His anger. But when God has finished His whole work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem, the indignation will cease in the destruction of the Assyrian himself. He forgot that he was only a rod in the hands of the Lord. He flattered himself that it was all his own wisdom and might. But the Lord says He will deal with the rod itself, and destroy it.

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Anger that ends in blessing, and whose story it is

The close of the indignation is not simply the end of punishment. It opens into something positive — and it belongs to a particular people.

The "end of the indignation" will finish in Israel's restoration, inward and outward, as all the prophets testify. It has nothing at all to do with the Christian or the church.

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"The appointed time"

Gabriel does not only promise an end. He says the end has a set date. That turns a terrifying vision into a bounded one.

Gabriel tells Daniel that the vision speaks of the events that will end the "indignation." Whatever sorrows come in between, they will have a definite end, for "it refers to the appointed time of the end."

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How much of the vision belongs to the end

Not every part of the chapter is aimed at that end.

Plainly the whole vision does not belong to the time of the end. Only the special part Daniel asked about does — the part the vision was given to explain.

Modernised from Frederick W GrantOriginal wording

Summary

- Cause. The indignation starts with Israel's idolatry. God's anger rises, chastening falls, the evil breaks out again, and His hand is stretched out still.

- Course. Antiochus Epiphanes fulfilled the vision once in history. Gabriel's interpretation carries it forward to a later and fuller one.

- Close. The indignation has a "latter end." It stops in the destruction of the Assyrian, the rod God used on Israel.

- Limit. The "appointed time" fixes a boundary. Whatever sorrows come between, they end on God's schedule, not the enemy's.

- Outcome. The end of the indignation is not bare relief but restoration, inward and outward. Commentators say this is Israel's story, not the church's.